Scottish football

[laudo9]

You guys have any suggestions for the job?
The cheap option is surely chucking Broony in as he's already there on a big wage, possibly with a mentor?
Yogi Hughes, he would certainly give them all a boot up the arse.

Think Jim Goodwin would be a good choice.

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

You guys have any suggestions for the job?
The cheap option is surely chucking Broony in as he's already there on a big wage, possibly with a mentor?
Yogi Hughes, he would certainly give them all a boot up the arse.

Truthfully, no.
Brown,Robson,,Simpson till the summer?
Yogi wouldn't go down well.
Goodwin, still learning.
It'll be cheap for sure.

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

Yep, was involved with my boys teams at grassroots level up untill recently.
Was always a constant struggle regards fundraising/pitches/training facilities/sponsors for strips etc. And there was always more obstacles and reasons to give up!!

But overall it was great for everyone involved and the kids grew a great bond together over the years from age 7 up untill we finished at 17 years old.

Reached a decent grass roots level in last few years in Paisley league at our age group(2002's) with four of the teams(we made one final) in our league either winning the Scottish Cup or were runners up in it in the last few years competing in it,so the quality of teams we were playing every week were decent! A few from the league are currently at Partick th, Hamilton, Clyde, Q of the South and St Mirren, others are playing at junior level so there is a route in through grassroots but don't know if the covid situation has damaged it beyond repair tbh!!

As you say the pro youth set up really annoyed me with constantly taking players from various teams in league, then in most cases releasing them after a few months, leaving the boys dissilussioned and in a lot of cases
boys stopped playing altogether!!

Still miss it but can get to Rangers games now which before i had to miss more often than not!

Sorry mate.
I don't miss the early weekends or having 2 hours kip after nightshift cos other parents treated it like a creche and expected the same parents to drive their kids to away games.
We were hopeless, although we won a consolation cup one year,which I think was the only trophy all the age groups won...
Played an Ellon team in the final ,they put out their A team we won something like 5-0.
Played the same team ,but B team ,the one we should have played in the final,and won by a similar scoreline.
It's very hard work,especially if you have the school team also.

 

[laudo9]

Sorry mate.
I don't miss the early weekends or having 2 hours kip after nightshift cos other parents treated it like a creche and expected the same parents to drive their kids to away games.
We were hopeless, although we won a consolation cup one year,which I think was the only trophy all the age groups won...
Played an Ellon team in the final ,they put out their A team we won something like 5-0.
Played the same team ,but B team ,the one we should have played in the final,and won by a similar scoreline.
It's very hard work,especially if you have the school team also.

Yep, can totally relate to all that stuff, especially parents interference!!!
But overall most were supportive and understood difficulties running a team and keeping everyone happy.

We were lucky as from age 9 onwards we had a talented wee bunch of about 8 players who basically stayed in the team right through untill age 17.
We won a few leagues and cups, did well in tournaments in Holland and England, reached the Scottish Cup final only to lose 2-1(we were robbed?)

Overall though Happy days!

 

[longers]

Bit of a random question this but how come both Edinburgh based clubs are so much more small time than the 2 Glasgow clubs ? I know Glasgow is a bigger city but Edinburgh still has a 500,000+ population (only 100,000 less than Glasgow) which you'd think would be enough to support a club that can compete with Celtic and Rangers ? Do people in Edinburgh just not care about football that much ?

 

[gonetomorrow]

Lack of facilities, a preference for computer games and most of all, when was tbe last time you saw kids playing footy in the street?
Loads of reasons why football up here is in decline oh yeah I also can't find a Wembley football anywhere.?

The decline of the tanner ba' player has been well documented. Streets are for cars now.

There's a feeling too that the old firm have it sewn up so kids lose interest in the local clubs.

 

[HeartofMidlothian]

Bit of a random question this but how come both Edinburgh based clubs are so much more small time than the 2 Glasgow clubs ? I know Glasgow is a bigger city but Edinburgh still has a 500,000+ population (only 100,000 less than Glasgow) which you'd think would be enough to support a club that can compete with Celtic and Rangers ? Do people in Edinburgh just not care about football that much ?

Lots of factors.

Firstly, the population thing. The Glasgow ‘metropolitan’ population is much bigger than Edinburgh; about 2million+ compared to 800,000.

Glasgow is traditionally more ‘industrial’ and working-class than Edinburgh and is a true ‘football’ city like Manchester and Liverpool. Edinburgh is a football and a rugby city.

Edinburgh might have a population of 500,000 but many who live there would struggle to point Tynecastle or Easter Road out on a map. Hearts in particular draw much of their support from outside of the city boundaries.

There are loads of Old Firm glory-hunters who are born and bred in Edinburgh, just like any other Scottish town or city. Bus loads of them head to Glasgow every week.

Hearts and Hibs have been spectacularly unsuccessful over the past 147 years. Hearts have only won 16 major trophies. Hibs have won 10.

I’m not going to speak for Hibs here but Hearts average around 17,500 fans this season; pretty good for a club that severely restricts away numbers and that rarely picks up silverware.

Hearts have a brilliantly loyal support and frankly, I am glad our attendances are that good.

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[HeartofMidlothian]

Will be a very tough game but very happy with that draw. ??

 

[WA Toffee]

Lots of factors.

Firstly, the population thing. The Glasgow ‘metropolitan’ population is much bigger than Edinburgh; about 2million+ compared to 800,000.

Glasgow is traditionally more ‘industrial’ and working-class than Edinburgh and is a true ‘football’ city like Manchester and Liverpool. Edinburgh is a football and a rugby city.

Edinburgh might have a population of 500,000 but many who live there would struggle to point Tynecastle or Easter Road out on a map. Hearts in particular draw much of their support from outside of the city boundaries.

There are loads of Old Firm glory-hunters who are born and bred in Edinburgh, just like any other Scottish town or city. Bus loads of them head to Glasgow every week.

Hearts and Hibs have been spectacularly unsuccessful over the past 147 years. Hearts have only won 16 major trophies. Hibs have won 10.

I’m not going to speak for Hibs here but Hearts average around 17,500 fans this season; pretty good for a club that severely restricts away numbers and that rarely picks up silverware.

Hearts have a brilliantly loyal support and frankly, I am glad our attendances are that good.

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2 other factors I think are that Glasgow has always had a population which has moved to other parts of the country, so their kids & grandkids grow up following the family team no matter where they they grew up. The other is media coverage is very old firm centred. A bit like politics - there are a lot of other parties than labour and tories, but the media only talks about the "big 2", so most people tend to vote for one of them. Same with the old firm.

 

[HeartofMidlothian]

2 other factors I think are that Glasgow has always had a population which has moved to other parts of the country, so their kids & grandkids grow up following the family team no matter where they they grew up. The other is media coverage is very old firm centred. A bit like politics - there are a lot of other parties than labour and tories, but the media only talks about the "big 2", so most people tend to vote for one of them. Same with the old firm.

I think it’s easier for Edinburgh/Lothian/Fife kids to support their dad’s team if that happens to be Rangers or Celtic rather than say Partick Thistle, Motherwell or St Mirren. I’ve known Rangers and Celtic fans over the years with no hereditary links whatsoever to Glasgow. Supporting Rangers or Celtic becomes a badge of honour; a bit of reflected glory thrown their way.

I have a distinct memory of seeing a middle-aged Celtic fan in a supermarket in Edinburgh on the late afternoon of the day they won the first of their recent run of ‘trebles’, doing his weekly food shop. So that was 2017. How did I know he was a Celtic fan? Why he was wearing his replica Celtic top of course, and looking well pleased himself. I have no doubt he would’ve been strutting around Asda or Tesco again in 2018, 2019 and 2020.

I’ve only seen Hearts win three trophies in my life time (1998, 2006 & 2012). Not only did I attend each of those games, but I went on a three day bender on each of those occasions (actually, I could only handle two days in 2012).

That Edinburgh-based Celtic fan would laugh at the paltry success of Hearts, and rightly so. Yet somehow I don’t envy him or his shopping trolley.

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

Lennon and Paul Lambert being mentioned for the dandies job.
Not sure about Lambert, but Lennon, now we're speaking.
With Broony,
Why not.

 

[Bluerover]

Lots of factors.

Firstly, the population thing. The Glasgow ‘metropolitan’ population is much bigger than Edinburgh; about 2million+ compared to 800,000.

Glasgow is traditionally more ‘industrial’ and working-class than Edinburgh and is a true ‘football’ city like Manchester and Liverpool. Edinburgh is a football and a rugby city.

Edinburgh might have a population of 500,000 but many who live there would struggle to point Tynecastle or Easter Road out on a map. Hearts in particular draw much of their support from outside of the city boundaries.

There are loads of Old Firm glory-hunters who are born and bred in Edinburgh, just like any other Scottish town or city. Bus loads of them head to Glasgow every week.

Hearts and Hibs have been spectacularly unsuccessful over the past 147 years. Hearts have only won 16 major trophies. Hibs have won 10.

I’m not going to speak for Hibs here but Hearts average around 17,500 fans this season; pretty good for a club that severely restricts away numbers and that rarely picks up silverware.

Hearts have a brilliantly loyal support and frankly, I am glad our attendances are that good.

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Great post.

 

[Hackbread]

I think it’s easier for Edinburgh/Lothian/Fife kids to support their dad’s team if that happens to be Rangers or Celtic rather than say Partick Thistle, Motherwell or St Mirren. I’ve known Rangers and Celtic fans over the years with no hereditary links whatsoever to Glasgow. Supporting Rangers or Celtic becomes a badge of honour; a bit of reflected glory thrown their way.

I have a distinct memory of seeing a middle-aged Celtic fan in a supermarket in Edinburgh on the late afternoon of the day they won the first of their recent run of ‘trebles’, doing his weekly food shop. So that was 2017. How did I know he was a Celtic fan? Why he was wearing his replica Celtic top of course, and looking well pleased himself. I have no doubt he would’ve been strutting around Asda or Tesco again in 2018, 2019 and 2020.

I’ve only seen Hearts win three trophies in my life time (1998, 2006 & 2012). Not only did I attend each of those games, but I went on a three day bender on each of those occasions (actually, I could only handle two days in 2012).

That Edinburgh-based Celtic fan would laugh at the paltry success of Hearts, and rightly so. Yet somehow I don’t envy him or his shopping trolley.

I lived in Edinburgh for a year just round the corner from Tynecastle.

Went to as many Hearts games as I could and loved every minute of it.

Hearts v Hibs was the first big game of footy I ever went to that wasn't the Welsh top division.

Great atmosphere, lovely people and lovely pies

Hope you get more trophies soon!

 

[laudo9]

Lennon and Paul Lambert being mentioned for the dandies job.
Not sure about Lambert, but Lennon, now we're speaking.
With Broony,
Why not.

They'd have to change the name to Abergreen if they did that!!

Nah, Broony can make an arse of it himself, he won't need any help!!?

 

[Bluerover]

Sorry mate.
I don't miss the early weekends or having 2 hours kip after nightshift cos other parents treated it like a creche and expected the same parents to drive their kids to away games.
We were hopeless, although we won a consolation cup one year,which I think was the only trophy all the age groups won...
Played an Ellon team in the final ,they put out their A team we won something like 5-0.
Played the same team ,but B team ,the one we should have played in the final,and won by a similar scoreline.
It's very hard work,especially if you have the school team also.

My one and only daughter played camogie, the female version of hurling. She was lucky enough to win a number of County final medals. I was usually dragged into being an umpire - the one that stands behind the goal and signals points, goals and wides.