Sandhills station

[dockroad]

A few blues I know work on a very simple logic: if you park close to the ground (by that, within the restrictions, although you may not be overly close) it's £10 a game.

If you do that over the season, you're putting £190 down for league games alone. A train ticket is likely, on average, £4ish, which is £76-£86.

A parking ticket is £35, so you would be able to get caught five times and still save money if you typically park, and two times if you currently get the train.

For some, it's probably worth the risk if you don't park ridiculously close. A person who sits near me parks in a road within a five-minute walk of the ground...

... he's been caught once in two seasons, and three times in the last five.

I there's 4 or 5 of you in the car to split the fine it's cheaper than parking

 

[Street end man]

Exactly. But can the council see beyond their hatred of cars to do the right thing?



100%. And yet, amazingly, there was no facility provided at the first test event to travel from/to the Goodison or Walton area. Exactly how dumb are these transport planners?

Totally mind boggling mate

 

[Bryan+]

Exactly. But can the council see beyond their hatred of cars to do the right thing?



100%. And yet, amazingly, there was no facility provided at the first test event to travel from/to the Goodison or Walton area. Exactly how dumb are these transport planners?

The ETRO will only run for 18months, so it won’t be feasible to run beyond next season after they see the cost, they had just under two years to go over the consultation

Consultation on parking measures around the new Everton Stadium (Bramley Moore Dock) - Liverpool City Council

Information for residents about Liverpool City Council services including council tax, bins and recycling, schools, leisure, streets and parking.

liverpool.gov.uk

You can also provided feedback directly here

Bramley Moore Parking Survey

Please take a few minutes to take our survey.

www.smartsurvey.co.uk

 

[BullensRoad]

Sandhills if it had escalators.

 

[ultra]

The ETRO will only run for 18months, so it won’t be feasible to run beyond next season after they see the cost, they had just under two years to go over the consultation

Consultation on parking measures around the new Everton Stadium (Bramley Moore Dock) - Liverpool City Council

Information for residents about Liverpool City Council services including council tax, bins and recycling, schools, leisure, streets and parking.

liverpool.gov.uk

You can also provided feedback directly here

Bramley Moore Parking Survey

Please take a few minutes to take our survey.

www.smartsurvey.co.uk

Thanks for the feedback link mate - I have filled it in

 

[Goat]

GOT Verify backed me up on that Rooney claim.

It really didn't.

 

[SMIGGER 62]

Why dont they use Goodson car park as a shuttle bus station on match days then people can still use there old parking spaces near goodison and better still keep local pubs busy on match days simples

 

[davek]

It really didn't.

I'm going to make it my business to prove this even if it takes me some time.

It was defo a story from the period Hunter Davies was writing his biography for him.

Loads of people will remember it.

 

[Rita_Poon]

 

[Goat]

I'm going to make it my business to prove this even if it takes me some time.

It was defo a story from the period Hunter Davies was writing his biography for him.

Loads of people will remember it.

Did people come up to you, big men, strong men, tears in their eyes "Hey Dave, did you hear that Moyes wanted to sell Rooney to Liverpool".

Is Hunter Davies in the room with us now?

 

[PhilM]

I absolutely love GOT on Sundays.

Don't you mean, Sundays when Everton aren't playing that weekend?

 

[Rita_Poon]

Hunter S Thompson*

 

[maccavennie]

I'm going to make it my business to prove this even if it takes me some time.

It was defo a story from the period Hunter Davies was writing his biography for him.

Loads of people will remember it.

Seems you were right Dave, see below mate




































































*

 

[Tom Hughes]

The transport working group for Bramley Moore stadium is Led by Everton Football club, in conjuction with the Council and Merseyrail/Merseytravel etc. That has been the case throughout the process, from consultation, planning and throughout the build. If the council or any of the other groups responsible have reneged or failed to deliver any infrastructure or resources that was agreed at planning or any point since, then the club could have highlighted this publically. As far as I know, they haven't, so we can only assume that the club agreed with the adequacy of provision, as laid out in their planning application and included transport plan. There is nothing new as regards planned matchday transport arrangements. There was always going to be major parking restrictions given the nature of the site, and the operational capacity of Sandhills and the Shuttle buses were all laid out in the transport strategy, and have always been known.

As a comparison, both Spurs and Arsenal had to contribute to major new infrastructure costs as part of their planning processes. That was their agreement to allow their projects to get planning, and this is ours. So blaming a cash-strapped council is pointless, unless it can be shown that they failed to deliver on anything agreed. If that can be shown, then club can hold them accountable.

However, it was clear from the start that there was always an obvious massive disparity between the "required" and "actual" public transport capacity at this site. The transport plan clearly stated that it would require a reversal in the current proportions of public to private transport usage at GP.... which roughly equates to 32k+ using public transport/walking at BMD (compared to only 15k currently at Goodison). Transport modelling obviously showed that allowing cars into the immediate vicinity would only grid lock the available lanes required for public transport and the shuttle buses..... and the transport plan basically descends into Shank's Pony, with the saving grace of the city centre with all of its transport hubs and capacity. I believe there are potential solutions to improve that connection with the city centre and elsewhere etc.... but none are really covered in the transport plan which was (porposely) vague from the start.

One thing that whole debate has at least brought to light in recent years, is the high number of potential Olympic speedwalking champions there are amongst our fanbase.

 

[PhilEFC]

The transport working group for Bramley Moore stadium is Led by Everton Football club, in conjuction with the Council and Merseyrail/Merseytravel etc. That has been the case throughout the process, from consultation, planning and throughout the build. If the council or any of the other groups responsible have reneged or failed to deliver any infrastructure or resources that was agreed at planning or any point since, then the club could have highlighted this publically. As far as I know, they haven't, so we can only assume that the club agreed with the adequacy of provision, as laid out in their planning application and included transport plan. There is nothing new as regards planned matchday transport arrangements. There was always going to be major parking restrictions given the nature of the site, and the operational capacity of Sandhills and the Shuttle buses were all laid out in the transport strategy, and have always been known.

As a comparison, both Spurs and Arsenal had to contribute to major new infrastructure costs as part of their planning processes. That was their agreement to allow their projects to get planning, and this is ours. So blaming a cash-strapped council is pointless, unless it can be shown that they failed to deliver on anything agreed. If that can be shown, then club can hold them accountable.

However, it was clear from the start that there was always an obvious massive disparity between the "required" and "actual" public transport capacity at this site. The transport plan clearly stated that it would require a reversal in the current proportions of public to private transport usage at GP.... which roughly equates to 32k+ using public transport/walking at BMD (compared to only 15k currently at Goodison). Transport modelling obviously showed that allowing cars into the immediate vicinity would only grid lock the available lanes required for public transport and the shuttle buses..... and the transport plan basically descends into Shank's Pony, with the saving grace of the city centre with all of its transport hubs and capacity. I believe there are potential solutions to improve that connection with the city centre and elsewhere etc.... but none are really covered in the transport plan which was (porposely) vague from the start.

One thing that whole debate has at least brought to light in recent years, is the high number of potential Olympic speedwalking champions there are amongst our fanbase.

I ‘dolphin’ you meant to say that. (And I know it’s spelt porpoise!)

All very good points though. Baxendale and her mates were out of depth and had no experience in running a tuck shop never mind the largest construction project in the UK I think.