Sandhills station

[Miked1e]

Possibly not ideal, but the half-marathon is from 9am. It should be largely done and dusted by the time that most of the matchgoing crowds start arriving in the city centre pre-match.... and all clear by the time it the mstch is finished.

Also to add, the route in town is only the first 2-3 miles so roads should start opening up from 10ish... then really only road closures would typically be around Sefton Park area / Jericho lane.

Remainder of the route takes you under Aigburth road and then down through Otterspool on the front.

 

[Tom Hughes]

It's a fantastic solution alright: all down to the old stadium to get to the new stadium.

Almost as hilarious as that lad with the drone walking to the stadium from Lime Street and declaring it a success at 30 minutes duration...but was blowing for tugs by the time he got to Leeds Street.

No-one is suggesting that ALL should go down to Goodison at all. Just some who live on, or usually use that East Lancs/Walton Lane corridor, as their public tranport journey doesn't give direct access to the BMD site (nor the Scotland Rd drop-off of most North-end bus routes, as it turns up Robson St off Walton Lane), and access via city centre shuttles would be convoluted and feel like going-back on themselves. The area around Goodison could also provide a familiar park and ride option for some out of towners, most importantly keeping more cars away from the immediate vicinity.

I agree about the "speedwalking" assessment of the walk to/from Lime Street by Mr Drone, he was almost jogging at some points. Plus of course it could take a further 5-10 mins or more just to get out of the Everton plaza post match. Lime St is literally only a few hundred metres closer to BMD than it is to Goodison. It is of course a very doable walk for the able-bodied and can be broken-up by using various bars and other amenities, but hardly convenient or great in accessibility terms, and less than conducive for the required modal-shift to public transport for those who simply want to go the match, then get home asap.

 

[Miked1e]

Anyhow has anyone done the walk from town, yet?

Hoping match day plans would be getting the train in/out lime street but combining it with food/drinks before or after a game... so likely walk instead of attempting to get through Sandhills.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Anyhow has anyone done the walk from town, yet?

Hoping match day plans would be getting the train in/out lime street but combining it with food/drinks before or after a game... so likely walk instead of attempting to get through Sandhills.

What can Lime Street handle per hour?

 

[Miked1e]

What can Lime Street handle per hour?

Approx about 7 hookers and 20 Avanti West Coast strikers

 

[Miked1e]

But in all seriousness, I am not sure...... We have the option to get on Merseyrail from South Liverpool (do this sometimes for Goodison anyway) or Northern Rail into Lime Street (preferred option).

So depends whether we risk Sandhills (maybe easier going the game than leaving), or of course a walk to/from town for either Moorefields or L.Street.

 

[Timbucktoo]

Anyhow has anyone done the walk from town, yet?

Hoping match day plans would be getting the train in/out lime street but combining it with food/drinks before or after a game... so likely walk instead of attempting to get through Sandhills.

I got the ferry over from Dublin sometime in the late 90`s, and walked into town from where it docked which was just above the Canada dock I think. This was well before any redevelopment work had been done down that direction. Its a straight walk from the stadium that takes you right down towards Liverpool One passing James Street station and L1 bus station. Its a lot more straight forward than walking into town from Goodison and anyone heading towards town after the match and is able for a 25-35 minute walk I`d say this is the best option to take. Winter weather may make the walk a bit of a chore, but so has watching Everton the last few seasons.

 

[gazzaa2]

I got the ferry over from Dublin sometime in the late 90`s, and walked into town from where it docked which was just above the Canada dock I think. This was well before any redevelopment work had been done down that direction. Its a straight walk from the stadium that takes you right down towards Liverpool One passing James Street station and L1 bus station. Its a lot more straight forward than walking into town from Goodison and anyone heading towards town after the match and is able for a 25-35 minute walk I`d say this is the best option to take. Winter weather may make the walk a bit of a chore, but so has watching Everton the last few seasons.

If you can walk 15 minutes okay to Sandhills and stand in a queue to get to town, then you may as well just walk to town. Sandhills isn't close enough to justify wait times. At least Brighton's station is right there.

 

[Miked1e]

I got the ferry over from Dublin sometime in the late 90`s, and walked into town from where it docked which was just above the Canada dock I think. This was well before any redevelopment work had been done down that direction. Its a straight walk from the stadium that takes you right down towards Liverpool One passing James Street station and L1 bus station. Its a lot more straight forward than walking into town from Goodison and anyone heading towards town after the match and is able for a 25-35 minute walk I`d say this is the best option to take. Winter weather may make the walk a bit of a chore, but so has watching Everton the last few seasons.

Did I just imagine / dream that they were going to open up the front right the way from the stadium to Pier Head?

I know it's easy enough to walk down Regent Road, but during nice weather would also give another great option!

 

[Timbucktoo]

Did I just imagine / dream that they were going to open up the front right the way from the stadium to Pier Head?

I know it's easy enough to walk down Regent Road, but during nice weather would also give another great option!

This is what you were dreaming about

 

[davek]

No-one is suggesting that ALL should go down to Goodison at all. Just some who live on, or usually use that East Lancs/Walton Lane corridor, as their public tranport journey doesn't give direct access to the BMD site (nor the Scotland Rd drop-off of most North-end bus routes, as it turns up Robson St off Walton Lane), and access via city centre shuttles would be convoluted and feel like going-back on themselves. The area around Goodison could also provide a familiar park and ride option for some out of towners, most importantly keeping more cars away from the immediate vicinity.

I agree about the "speedwalking" assessment of the walk to/from Lime Street by Mr Drone, he was almost jogging at some points. Plus of course it could take a further 5-10 mins or more just to get out of the Everton plaza post match. Lime St is literally only a few hundred metres closer to BMD than it is to Goodison. It is of course a very doable walk for the able-bodied and can be broken-up by using various bars and other amenities, but hardly convenient or great in accessibility terms, and less than conducive for the required modal-shift to public transport for those who simply want to go the match, then get home asap.

If there's anything more deflating than going to your old stadium to park up and then start another journey to your new stadium I cant think what that'd be.

On a psychological level it'd be a killer.

All of these partial solutions fall into the category of 'leave it to the fans to sort themselves out'. Capitulating to the kind of hard faced do-nothing policy of the local state when it comes to this stadium.

I've noticed that some fans are falling into the trap of helping them out there. I see the Esk saying there's nothing to be gained by the apportioning of blame over this, and he's calling for fan involvement and fan representation in talks to mitigate the effect of this mess. No doubt Rotheram and Robinson will be nodding furiously at that, because it helps deflect away from the LRC and LCC and their criminal lack of preparation for this stadium and not providing - or insisting upon the provision of - a workable transport plan. And all these piecemeal 'solutions' will take away the urgency of systematically solving the problem.

Make no mistake: if fans find less than ideal but 'manageable' ways of getting to and from that stadium over the next 2/3 seasons those public bodies will all but fold their arms - and they'll probably make little attempt to sort out anything better for the Euros. They'll just hand visiting fans the blueprint of how inventive / desperate Everton fans get to and from that stadium.

 

[summerisle]

Come back Joe Ando...all's forgiven.

The Anderson years were the Golden years.

For him, no longer though.

 

[ultra]

No-one is suggesting that ALL should go down to Goodison at all. Just some who live on, or usually use that East Lancs/Walton Lane corridor, as their public tranport journey doesn't give direct access to the BMD site (nor the Scotland Rd drop-off of most North-end bus routes, as it turns up Robson St off Walton Lane), and access via city centre shuttles would be convoluted and feel like going-back on themselves. The area around Goodison could also provide a familiar park and ride option for some out of towners, most importantly keeping more cars away from the immediate vicinity.

I agree about the "speedwalking" assessment of the walk to/from Lime Street by Mr Drone, he was almost jogging at some points. Plus of course it could take a further 5-10 mins or more just to get out of the Everton plaza post match. Lime St is literally only a few hundred metres closer to BMD than it is to Goodison. It is of course a very doable walk for the able-bodied and can be broken-up by using various bars and other amenities, but hardly convenient or great in accessibility terms, and less than conducive for the required modal-shift to public transport for those who simply want to go the match, then get home asap.

100% right

 

[davek]

For him, no longer though.

I see Liam Thorp has taken time out as Steve Rotheram's personal assistant to write up the story.

Impressive multi-tasking.

 

[Tom Hughes]

Actually, I'd say expecting to be able to park on top off the stadium, gridlocking the whole area for car and shuttle bus alike, causing horrendous dispersal times would probably be far more deflating...... for everyone!

As I said, those Shuttles would also serve as direct service for fans local to Goodison and the East Lancs corridor who have no direct route to the Scotland Rd drop-off point, and/or would have to almost pass the stadium at a distance to access the Shuttles based in the city-centre..