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https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/everton-sack-allardyce-now-bring-marco-silva-123746660.html
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Everton’s transfer plan flawed as Ademola Lookman lights up Leipzig
Paul Joyce, Comment
Sam Allardyce might have hoped that his critique of Everton’s pathetic (his words) defeat by Arsenal would, in some way, have soothed the pain and yet he only succeeded in adding to the sense of disillusionment festering among a seething support.
The headline confession that he had borrowed the game plan of Swansea City, who had beaten Arsène Wenger’s side four days earlier, and attempted to replicate it overlooked the reality that he has different players. For a start he has Michael Keane, not Alfie Mawson, in his defence.
However, it was the reasoning behind his insistence that Ademola Lookman would have made no difference to an abject 5-1 reverse at the Emirates that served to expose the sheer scale of the mess that has enveloped Everton.
“No,” Allardyce said. “We’ve got £20 million Theo Walcott and £30 million Yannick Bolasie and if you’d put him [Lookman] out there he wouldn’t have done any better than the rest because the whole team played crap.”
Never mind that Lookman had just stepped off the substitutes’ bench for Champions League-chasing RB Leipzig in his first game after his deadline day loan move to Germany, streaked past Borussia Mönchengladbach’s retreating defenders before finding the corner of the net in a cutting cameo that his parent club have been crying out for this season.
By Allardyce’s rationale, £21 million Cenk Tosun would have come on before £1.5million Dominic Calvert-Lewin in the second half. That the Turkey forward did not is something else for Everton to worry about. Everton are surely the last club that should be equating price tags to quality given the bucket loads of money they have wasted over the past 18-months in arguably the worst spending spree in football history and one which has left director of football, Steve Walsh, enduring death by 200 million cuts.
Competition is tough but Lookman may actually stand as the most pertinent symbol of Everton’s flawed transfer strategy.
One tranche of Walsh’s policy was to recruit the best youngsters in the country. Lookman arrived from Charlton Athletic last January for £11 million only to become so desperate to leave within 12 months due to a lack of opportunities that he was prepared to go against Everton’s wishes by moving to the Bundesliga rather than Championship high-fliers Derby County.
One of the Merseyside club’s unique selling points has been their willingness to give youth a chance and they can reel out the statistics that point out that they have given more minutes to youngsters than any other top-flight club this season. Yet examine that more closely and the burden was placed on them because a replacement for Romelu Lukaku was not immediately recruited.
Jonjoe Kenny has played primarily because of injuries, while Tom Davies has been in and out of the side during a difficult second season.
Allardyce was brought in to steer the club away from the relegation zone. He will do that despite the weekend embarrassment. But Everton are not just losing games, they are in danger of losing their identity.
Giving youth a chance
Everton players aged 21 and under have played more Premier League minutes this season than those at every other club. They include Ademola Lookman, who scored in his debut for RB Leipzig on Saturday.
Everton 6,125min
Leicester City 4,933
Tottenham Hotspur 4,439
Crystal Palace 3,001
Liverpool 2,731
Manchester City 2,622
Swansea City 2,367
Bournemouth 2,299
Watford 2,172
Manchester Utd 2,097
Arsenal 1,834
Stoke City 1,552
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We can. Something just is fundamentally wrong.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...tons-pathetic-performances-piling-up-14248370
Bob on article by Ball.
One thing Big Sam got absolutely right on Saturday night was his description of Everton's performance.
It WAS a pathetic performance.
But the concern for a lot of Everton fans, myself included, is that we have been seeing pathetic performances for much of the season anyway.
That was the NINTH time this season Everton have been beaten by three goals or more - and that truly is pathetic.
We seem to be going over the same old problems over and over again and to me it's screaming out not for a back to basics approach, but just a 'play your best team' approach.
It's simple.
Play your best players.
We were playing a top team on Saturday so surely the best approach would have been to start your best players on the pitch, then tweak the system accordingly.
As soon as I saw the line up I was shocked. If you count the goalkeeper that was eight defensive players, countered by just three strikers to try and create opportunities and score them.
The worry when you play like that is a negative mindset brings out negative performances.
And while Sam Allardyce quite rightly had a pop at the players, he has take responsibility as well for sending out that team and that system.
Morgan Schneiderin of Everton and Yannick Bolasie of Everton applud the fans as they look dejected after the Premier League match between Arsenal and Everton.
How on earth were we going to get back in the game when we had so many defensive minded players on the pitch? And our defending has been so sloppy for so long that it wasn't any great surprise that we conceded first.
Sam says he is alarmed by the inconsistency of his players, but I'm alarmed by the inconsistency of his selections.
The last time he named an unchanged team was after the West Ham win, and surprise, surprise, we won the next game against Huddersfield - made one change at Anfield and got a draw.
He can't criticise players for inconsistency when the selection is inconsistent. I try and name the team every week and I don't think I've got one right all season because there's always something being changed or tweaked.
A new manager will always take time to find his favoured starting XI but there has to be a core.
Joey Barton brands Idrissa Gueye "braindead" and Morgan Schneiderlin "terrible"
And that core has to include your best players
Wayne Rooney can play deep, Gylfi Sigurdsson can play number 10. They CAN play in the same team.
If we named Everton's best one to XI we'd probably only be arguing about one or two positions, yet the team changes every week.
Get your best players on the pitch playing in their best positions - and if they're not doing it then change them then with your substitutes.
We knew what Sam was going to bring to the table when he arrived as manager and he's got to get the best out of the players, but he's not doing himself any favours with his negative line ups and negative tactics because it's so difficult to change.
The amount of times I've been to Goodison this season and the 90 minutes has been the longest 90 minutes of my life is simply too much.
You just hoped that after the Leicester game, when Theo Walcott was the key to that performance, we would kick on. But then we went to Arsenal, sat back with five defenders and two sitting midfielders and Arsenal were still able to find space.
No-one was taking responsibility. There were a lot of individual errors and that's happening far too often.
When you pack the midfield with players, some players can look over their shoulders to see if a team-mate is doing a job.
If you go back to a 4-4-2 that can't happen. Everyone knows their jobs and players have to take individual responsibility.
If you're looking over your shoulder thinking 'he'll do that' you get caught short between not doing your job.
Apart from players doing their jobs on the pitch, this is a massive job for Big Sam off it.
In his long career this is turning into his toughest test at club level yet - and so far he is failing to deliver.
LOOKMAN'S ONLY LOOKING OUT FOR HIMSELF
While we were struggling to break down Arsenal at The Emirates, Ademola Lookman was coming on as a substitute at Borussia Moenchengladbach and scoring a very well taken winner for RB Leipzig.
Sam Allardyce's reaction to being told that news was prickly, but I really don't understand him kicking off about the situation.
Ademola is going to a team who are third in the Bundesliga, he is going to get minutes on the pitch and he will get opportunities to further his football education.
What's the problem?
Sam hasn't shown any belief in the boy since he arrived here, but it's backfired on him so he's spat his dummy out.
I don't blame the boy. He wants to play football.
He's had 19 minutes against Huddersfield, went to Limassol, started and scored twice, got 11 minutes against Swansea then came on at Anfield, did well and hasn't been rewarded for it. So he must be thinking 'what else can I do?'
Ademola Lookman of Everton battles with Joe Gomez of Liverpool (Image: Everton FC via Getty Images)
He will have been looking at the first team performances being so poor and thinking 'if I can't get in now when will I ever get in?' He's at a crucial age where he wants to play football.
Good luck to him and hopefully he will come back a more accomplished player.
He still has a lot to learn but he has plenty of raw ability.
Germany is a good technical league but it's also fast paced so hopefully he will come back better.
It alarms me that players want to leave Everton. It suggests that something is not right at the club if players are wanting to force a move.
IS NIASSE REALLY OUR BEST STRIKER?
I have been baffled by Cenk Tosun's absence from the starting line up after just two starts - and Oumar Niasse's dramatic elevation to first choice "number one" striker at the club.
I like the guy. His attitude is spot on. he's been treated very unfairly by the club but still comes out and gives it his all.
But we just know he's not good enough, His touch against Leicester straight from their kick-off after the second goal was typical. He workrate and attiitude created a goalscoring opportunity - but his touch wasn't good enough to take it.
The quality is just not there but that's not the boy's fault.
The club went out, found him, played him and he just wasn't good enough.
But six months later to find himself described as the club's number one striker is incredible.
If I was Dominic Calvert-Lewin I wouldn't be too happy.
He was worked his socks off after a difficult summer, is doing everything he can on his own and then finds himself on the bench.
He will never learn the game from the bench.
And neither will the new centre-forward. Tosun hasn't been given a fair crack of the whip and I just don't get it.
I would like to see the manager pick his best players, which includes a £27m striker up front.
FANS VOTING WITH THEIR FEET
Social media was awash with clips of Everton fans streaming away from the away section at The Emirates, BEFORE half-time on Saturday.
I fully understand their thinking.
Football is supposed to be a distraction and an entertainment.
Everton fans are selling out everywhere they go away from home but they're not going to sit there and be conned week in week out.
They have earned good money, travelled all that way south and have all the right in the world to walk out when they want.
The alternative is to sit there and be embarassed, humiliated and have Arsenal fans laughing at them.
If I'd been sat there I probably would have walked out, too.
They have sold out everywhere this season - at home and abroad - and have not been rewarded for that loyalty.
They did their talking with their feet. And that has to be a grave concern for Sam Allardyce.
The last time that happened was at Sunderland when Roberto Martinez's race was almost run.
CALLING OUT FOR A LEADER
We need leaders at Everton Football Club.
When things aren't going right on the pitch, we need someone to take responsibility and say we need to play a different way for five minutes.
We don't do that. We just carry on the same way.
We have five or six players who have been captains at their old clubs and it's worrying that they're not standing up and taking responsibility.
Maybe the players aren't good enough?
One player who clearly is a leader is Seamus Coleman. He blew many of his team-mates out of the water with his performance against Leicester.
It was high level throughout, when Leicester thought he was going to be the weak link!
They played on him, they brought fresh legs on against him and he still won all his personal battles.
On Saturday Sam said we tried to mimic Swansea, but we have a different style to Swansea. We have to find our own identity, say that's how we're going to play and stick to it.
The formation changes too often and Sam has to take the responsibility for that.
He can't keep on blaming the players for inconsistency when he is inconsistent with his starting XI.
KNOCK KNOCK?
I'd love to see some of the training sessions at Finch Farm, because some of the players must be performing like Messi and Maradona!
That must be the only explanation as to why some players are still getting picked week in week out, when what we see on matchdays doesn't justify their inclusion on the team sheet.
If I was an Under-23 player I'd be knocking on the manager's door asking for an opportunity show what I can do.
Bob on article by Ball.
One thing Big Sam got absolutely right on Saturday night was his description of Everton's performance.
It WAS a pathetic performance.
But the concern for a lot of Everton fans, myself included, is that we have been seeing pathetic performances for much of the season anyway.
That was the NINTH time this season Everton have been beaten by three goals or more - and that truly is pathetic.
We seem to be going over the same old problems over and over again and to me it's screaming out not for a back to basics approach, but just a 'play your best team' approach.
It's simple.
Play your best players.
We were playing a top team on Saturday so surely the best approach would have been to start your best players on the pitch, then tweak the system accordingly.
As soon as I saw the line up I was shocked. If you count the goalkeeper that was eight defensive players, countered by just three strikers to try and create opportunities and score them.
The worry when you play like that is a negative mindset brings out negative performances.
And while Sam Allardyce quite rightly had a pop at the players, he has take responsibility as well for sending out that team and that system.
Morgan Schneiderin of Everton and Yannick Bolasie of Everton applud the fans as they look dejected after the Premier League match between Arsenal and Everton.
How on earth were we going to get back in the game when we had so many defensive minded players on the pitch? And our defending has been so sloppy for so long that it wasn't any great surprise that we conceded first.
Sam says he is alarmed by the inconsistency of his players, but I'm alarmed by the inconsistency of his selections.
The last time he named an unchanged team was after the West Ham win, and surprise, surprise, we won the next game against Huddersfield - made one change at Anfield and got a draw.
He can't criticise players for inconsistency when the selection is inconsistent. I try and name the team every week and I don't think I've got one right all season because there's always something being changed or tweaked.
A new manager will always take time to find his favoured starting XI but there has to be a core.
Joey Barton brands Idrissa Gueye "braindead" and Morgan Schneiderlin "terrible"
And that core has to include your best players
Wayne Rooney can play deep, Gylfi Sigurdsson can play number 10. They CAN play in the same team.
If we named Everton's best one to XI we'd probably only be arguing about one or two positions, yet the team changes every week.
Get your best players on the pitch playing in their best positions - and if they're not doing it then change them then with your substitutes.
We knew what Sam was going to bring to the table when he arrived as manager and he's got to get the best out of the players, but he's not doing himself any favours with his negative line ups and negative tactics because it's so difficult to change.
The amount of times I've been to Goodison this season and the 90 minutes has been the longest 90 minutes of my life is simply too much.
You just hoped that after the Leicester game, when Theo Walcott was the key to that performance, we would kick on. But then we went to Arsenal, sat back with five defenders and two sitting midfielders and Arsenal were still able to find space.
No-one was taking responsibility. There were a lot of individual errors and that's happening far too often.
When you pack the midfield with players, some players can look over their shoulders to see if a team-mate is doing a job.
If you go back to a 4-4-2 that can't happen. Everyone knows their jobs and players have to take individual responsibility.
If you're looking over your shoulder thinking 'he'll do that' you get caught short between not doing your job.
Apart from players doing their jobs on the pitch, this is a massive job for Big Sam off it.
In his long career this is turning into his toughest test at club level yet - and so far he is failing to deliver.
LOOKMAN'S ONLY LOOKING OUT FOR HIMSELF
While we were struggling to break down Arsenal at The Emirates, Ademola Lookman was coming on as a substitute at Borussia Moenchengladbach and scoring a very well taken winner for RB Leipzig.
Sam Allardyce's reaction to being told that news was prickly, but I really don't understand him kicking off about the situation.
Ademola is going to a team who are third in the Bundesliga, he is going to get minutes on the pitch and he will get opportunities to further his football education.
What's the problem?
Sam hasn't shown any belief in the boy since he arrived here, but it's backfired on him so he's spat his dummy out.
I don't blame the boy. He wants to play football.
He's had 19 minutes against Huddersfield, went to Limassol, started and scored twice, got 11 minutes against Swansea then came on at Anfield, did well and hasn't been rewarded for it. So he must be thinking 'what else can I do?'
Ademola Lookman of Everton battles with Joe Gomez of Liverpool (Image: Everton FC via Getty Images)
He will have been looking at the first team performances being so poor and thinking 'if I can't get in now when will I ever get in?' He's at a crucial age where he wants to play football.
Good luck to him and hopefully he will come back a more accomplished player.
He still has a lot to learn but he has plenty of raw ability.
Germany is a good technical league but it's also fast paced so hopefully he will come back better.
It alarms me that players want to leave Everton. It suggests that something is not right at the club if players are wanting to force a move.
IS NIASSE REALLY OUR BEST STRIKER?
I have been baffled by Cenk Tosun's absence from the starting line up after just two starts - and Oumar Niasse's dramatic elevation to first choice "number one" striker at the club.
I like the guy. His attitude is spot on. he's been treated very unfairly by the club but still comes out and gives it his all.
But we just know he's not good enough, His touch against Leicester straight from their kick-off after the second goal was typical. He workrate and attiitude created a goalscoring opportunity - but his touch wasn't good enough to take it.
The quality is just not there but that's not the boy's fault.
The club went out, found him, played him and he just wasn't good enough.
But six months later to find himself described as the club's number one striker is incredible.
If I was Dominic Calvert-Lewin I wouldn't be too happy.
He was worked his socks off after a difficult summer, is doing everything he can on his own and then finds himself on the bench.
He will never learn the game from the bench.
And neither will the new centre-forward. Tosun hasn't been given a fair crack of the whip and I just don't get it.
I would like to see the manager pick his best players, which includes a £27m striker up front.
FANS VOTING WITH THEIR FEET
Social media was awash with clips of Everton fans streaming away from the away section at The Emirates, BEFORE half-time on Saturday.
I fully understand their thinking.
Football is supposed to be a distraction and an entertainment.
Everton fans are selling out everywhere they go away from home but they're not going to sit there and be conned week in week out.
They have earned good money, travelled all that way south and have all the right in the world to walk out when they want.
The alternative is to sit there and be embarassed, humiliated and have Arsenal fans laughing at them.
If I'd been sat there I probably would have walked out, too.
They have sold out everywhere this season - at home and abroad - and have not been rewarded for that loyalty.
They did their talking with their feet. And that has to be a grave concern for Sam Allardyce.
The last time that happened was at Sunderland when Roberto Martinez's race was almost run.
CALLING OUT FOR A LEADER
We need leaders at Everton Football Club.
When things aren't going right on the pitch, we need someone to take responsibility and say we need to play a different way for five minutes.
We don't do that. We just carry on the same way.
We have five or six players who have been captains at their old clubs and it's worrying that they're not standing up and taking responsibility.
Maybe the players aren't good enough?
One player who clearly is a leader is Seamus Coleman. He blew many of his team-mates out of the water with his performance against Leicester.
It was high level throughout, when Leicester thought he was going to be the weak link!
They played on him, they brought fresh legs on against him and he still won all his personal battles.
On Saturday Sam said we tried to mimic Swansea, but we have a different style to Swansea. We have to find our own identity, say that's how we're going to play and stick to it.
The formation changes too often and Sam has to take the responsibility for that.
He can't keep on blaming the players for inconsistency when he is inconsistent with his starting XI.
KNOCK KNOCK?
I'd love to see some of the training sessions at Finch Farm, because some of the players must be performing like Messi and Maradona!
That must be the only explanation as to why some players are still getting picked week in week out, when what we see on matchdays doesn't justify their inclusion on the team sheet.
If I was an Under-23 player I'd be knocking on the manager's door asking for an opportunity show what I can do.
Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
Its 2018. The internet is the most important communication device out there. Nobody will give a toss if there is a banner in a stand ina game that nobody bar Everton fans will be watching anyway.
It's not that big a deal to be honest. In football terms relevant to Everton yeah maybe so, but in the grand scheme of things in both football and life in general protesting over a boring style of football is not really that big of an issue.
“I can take the criticism, it’s no problem to me. I can tell you this though, as a man who tactically looks at every single area to play against the opposition, all those who said we should have played a back four, go look at what Swansea did against Arsenal with a back five on Tuesday. Systems will mean nothing if the players play crap.”
I know it's been posted before, but that ^^^ is so 'kin outrageous in so many ways it'll never be topped by a manager of this club.
Samosaurus the technical genius
Swansea the role model
Players played crap
This feller is Everton manager. We've fallen into the abyss.
He clearly can’t otherwise the whopper wouldn’t be throwing the players under the bus and refusing to take any blame for his inept team selection and total failure to prepare properly!Plus if what I’ve benn told is correct he’s already made it clear to the players which games he’s targeting wins from and which ones he’s writing off. He’s a disgrace; embarrassed that Moshiri appointed him.
Another interesting article about the 'Lookman Affair'
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...am-allardyce-loan-short-termism-a8193656.html
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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...am-allardyce-loan-short-termism-a8193656.html
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Joyce and McNulty asking the questions here.
Hopefully we get some traction.
Hopefully we get some traction.
Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
This is doing my head in now.
He is on loan for a few months. So what? Loads of young players go out on loan and although people want to pretend otherwise he was very hit and miss in the games he played for us (he didn't get loads of chances to be fair).
He scored on his debut for us too. Hopefully he does well and comes back to us better. I don't see the downside of all this personally. Its like people moaning about the Dowell loan. He is benefiting from it!
The Lookman one is different to the Dowell one. Allardyce clearly, for whatever reason, doesn't like Lookman, and probably hates him even more now that he's made him look an idiot by scoring on his debut. It's why he had to come out with that utter crap about Bolasie costing £30m and so automatically deserving to play head of him after the game, he had no other justification. He will never change his mind on Lookman now because it will mean him admitting he was wrong, which is terrible news for us because we could lose out on a great talent.
Fat head will be gone before Lookman all being well mate
Death
I'll take down dat coal powered MG, I tel u Hwat
He's doing and then saying all the wrong things. His press conferences seemed a breath of fresh air. Put it's when the chips are down you see someone's character. We can all act enlightened, charming philosophical when things are going well.
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