Well done on finishing mate , it’s not easy once it goesWell I’ve now experienced what hitting “the wall” feels like
Sheer hell!
Got it done anyway


Well done on finishing mate , it’s not easy once it goesWell I’ve now experienced what hitting “the wall” feels like
Sheer hell!
Got it done anyway
Immense that you got through/over the wall. Its a pretty lonely place but you did it.Well I’ve now experienced what hitting “the wall” feels like
Sheer hell!
Got it done anyway
After a few days to reflect I’m blaming the heatWell done on finishing mate , it’s not easy once it goes![]()
Just about everybody goes out too fast , I was spot on my time at 1/2 m , then lost 12 mins too , mainly in the last 6 miles. I was looking at London times for my age group , people were losing way more than 12 mins in the 2nd half so you did well . It’s great you’ve got other targets …….but I suspect you’ll still need to go back and scratch the marathon itch next yearAfter a few days to reflect I’m blaming the heat
Nothing to do with me going off too fast! My second half was 12 minutes slower than my first half.
New target for the summer is see how close to 17 flat 5k I can get
The best a man can get...They’ve moved on in size and quality ! Top left is my medal from 1st London in ‘ 81, helped out in 82, ran 83 and 84 . The joys of youth now long goneView attachment 305903
I’m curious. Just about everybody in my age group at London lost 6-12 minutes in the 2nd half , I’d love to ask them why . Starting too fast is obvious but I’d be curious to know if they had a nutrition/ gels strategy. Can I ask if you were using gels or similar prior to your bonk, and if so how many ?After a few days to reflect I’m blaming the heat
Nothing to do with me going off too fast! My second half was 12 minutes slower than my first half.
New target for the summer is see how close to 17 flat 5k I can get
It could be I started too fast but my usual half marathon time would be about 1:23 and my first half of Manchester Marathon was more like 1:34 so I don’t necessarily think I did.I’m curious. Just about everybody in my age group at London lost 6-12 minutes in the 2nd half , I’d love to ask them why . Starting too fast is obvious but I’d be curious to know if they had a nutrition/ gels strategy. Can I ask if you were using gels or similar prior to your bonk, and if so how many ?
It could be I started too fast but my usual half marathon time would be about 1:23 and my first half of Manchester Marathon was more like 1:34 so I don’t necessarily think I did.
Up to mile 16 felt pretty easy.
I had a gel every 25 minutes - so 8 in total. Gels had 23g of carbs in and were 60g hi-five electrolyte gels. Maybe too little? I started cramping up last hour.
I tried to take water on from each station but in hindsight I could maybe have just stopped and necked a whole one instead of getting a couple of rubbish sips on the move.
Heat obviously made things difficult - heart rate averaged 159
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Thanks . That’s quite a good intake, approximately 55 g per hour. I had a recommendation from Precision Nutrition to get 60 g per hour of their 30 g of carbs gels . I took one 20 mins before the start then another at 4 mile, puked it up at 6 miles ! I’d obviously tried the gels in training without problems so I’m now trying to figure out why this has happened in my last two marathons, possibly the increased pace of the marathon compared to training .It could be I started too fast but my usual half marathon time would be about 1:23 and my first half of Manchester Marathon was more like 1:34 so I don’t necessarily think I did.
Up to mile 16 felt pretty easy.
I had a gel every 25 minutes - so 8 in total. Gels had 23g of carbs in and were 60g hi-five electrolyte gels. Maybe too little? I started cramping up last hour.
I tried to take water on from each station but in hindsight I could maybe have just stopped and necked a whole one instead of getting a couple of rubbish sips on the move.
Heat obviously made things difficult - heart rate averaged 159
What's your 5k time at the moment and how old are you?After a few days to reflect I’m blaming the heat
Nothing to do with me going off too fast! My second half was 12 minutes slower than my first half.
New target for the summer is see how close to 17 flat 5k I can get
I thought there used to be a rule of thumb to x2 your half marathon time, plus 20 minutes.It could be I started too fast but my usual half marathon time would be about 1:23 and my first half of Manchester Marathon was more like 1:34 so I don’t necessarily think I did.
Up to mile 16 felt pretty easy.
I had a gel every 25 minutes - so 8 in total. Gels had 23g of carbs in and were 60g hi-five electrolyte gels. Maybe too little? I started cramping up last hour.
I tried to take water on from each station but in hindsight I could maybe have just stopped and necked a whole one instead of getting a couple of rubbish sips on the move.
Heat obviously made things difficult - heart rate averaged 159
I thought there used to be a rule of thumb to x2 your half marathon time, plus 20 minutes.
Sounds plenty of gels to me. Pretty sure I've never ran a marathon with gels. I used to just take lucozade tabs (gels possibly weren't invented in 2003?). Ten years or so later, it was jelly babies too.
500ml of sports drink the night before, 500ml in the morning of the race.
Cramp will be the heat no doubt