Ross Barkley

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A bit strange that it's Lukaku (with longer on his current deal) that is set to pen a new 5 year deal and not a sniff of a new deal for Barkley with only 16 months left.

Maybe the club think he's certain to sign and is less of a priority? Either that or Barkley is holding back for whatever reason.

Whichever it is, needs sorting pretty sharpish.
 

Jermaine Jenas:

“If there is an element of his game that I think Barkley could take from Alli, it is that he needs to keep the ball moving forwards when he picks it up in the opposition half. Too many times, his first touch seems to take him back into midfield instead. But that could be put down to his confidence, because he seems to be in a different situation to Alli right now.

While Alli has emerged as a key figure for Spurs, Barkley will not have the same feeling that he is his team’s main man. He is close to it, but I feel that he is being held back from what he is capable of. That is partly as a result of some of the negative comments Koeman has made about him this season and also because he always seems to get moans and groans from the crowd if things do not go right for him. If he was playing with the same belief as Alli, he would be a different beast.”

Spot on for me that. Underlines the belief I hold that Ross's game has been neutered by Koeman and not enhanced. We have a lot more bits and pieces tracking back and playing the ball off short, but almost expunged from his game now are creative bursts forward taking the opposition on and driving them back. That is backed up statistically, by the way....

Average number of dribbles per game:

Season 2016/17 1.4

Season 2015/16 3.1

Season 2014/15 3.0
 
Jermaine Jenas:

“If there is an element of his game that I think Barkley could take from Alli, it is that he needs to keep the ball moving forwards when he picks it up in the opposition half. Too many times, his first touch seems to take him back into midfield instead. But that could be put down to his confidence, because he seems to be in a different situation to Alli right now.

While Alli has emerged as a key figure for Spurs, Barkley will not have the same feeling that he is his team’s main man. He is close to it, but I feel that he is being held back from what he is capable of. That is partly as a result of some of the negative comments Koeman has made about him this season and also because he always seems to get moans and groans from the crowd if things do not go right for him. If he was playing with the same belief as Alli, he would be a different beast.”

Spot on for me that. Underlines the belief I hold that Ross's game has been neutered by Koeman and not enhanced. We have a lot more bits and pieces tracking back and playing the ball off short, but almost expunged from his game now are creative bursts forward taking the opposition on and driving them back. That is backed up statistically, by the way....

Average number of dribbles per game:

Season 2016/17 1.4

Season 2015/16 3.1

Season 2014/15 3.0

possibly, but the results are better atm...do these dribbles help us win the game?
 

possibly, but the results are better atm...do these dribbles help us win the game?

But what does that say about a manager if he adapts the very quality out of a player that had brought him to the attention of the nation's football public in the first place?

If you think Koeman has retained Barkley's flair then fine, that's your opinion. I certainly dont share it. If he was at a CL club the first instructions Barkley would receive would be 'get on the ball, go back to what you were doing and express yourself'.

What's happening is that we are trying to clip his wings to fit in with a different mentality: keep it tight, play it safe, work hard.

He really would be better off elsewhere from a purely footballing p.o.v. But the lad is an Evertonian and that complicates matters for him.

As much as you could feel sorry for any young multi-millionaire doing a job they love I feel some sympathy for Barkley atm.
 
Ross is playing well but he has more heights to hit he has the talent to be the best there is he shouldn't stop until he gets there.
He's playing too conservatively for me.

He did need to learn to keep it simple at times, that's for sure. But I see a player that doesn't do what comes natural anymore and that is to get on the ball and try and make things happen. Certainly not as often as he used to. If he's learned a bit of discipline about pitch craft then great. But the stick has been bent back too far in the opposite direction for me and the way he's being coached is discouraging his creativity.
 
Jermaine Jenas:

“If there is an element of his game that I think Barkley could take from Alli, it is that he needs to keep the ball moving forwards when he picks it up in the opposition half. Too many times, his first touch seems to take him back into midfield instead. But that could be put down to his confidence, because he seems to be in a different situation to Alli right now.

While Alli has emerged as a key figure for Spurs, Barkley will not have the same feeling that he is his team’s main man. He is close to it, but I feel that he is being held back from what he is capable of. That is partly as a result of some of the negative comments Koeman has made about him this season and also because he always seems to get moans and groans from the crowd if things do not go right for him. If he was playing with the same belief as Alli, he would be a different beast.”

Spot on for me that. Underlines the belief I hold that Ross's game has been neutered by Koeman and not enhanced. We have a lot more bits and pieces tracking back and playing the ball off short, but almost expunged from his game now are creative bursts forward taking the opposition on and driving them back. That is backed up statistically, by the way....

Average number of dribbles per game:

Season 2016/17 1.4

Season 2015/16 3.1

Season 2014/15 3.0

Suddenly taking an interest in what pundits think when it suits? Jenas was an utter no mark player who wouldn't know a bit of attacking football if it hit him in the face. A completely ridiculous pundit who has never said anything that the average fan is not capable of seeing for himself. Jenas rates Spurs player higher than Everton player shocker. The same Alli who soiled his pants in the summer, a tournament that Ross' hard work landed him at. Jenas shouldn't even allow himself an opinion on a player like Barkley, it's like Tony Hibbert having a pop at Jordi Alba for his attacking football.
 
Jermaine Jenas:

“If there is an element of his game that I think Barkley could take from Alli, it is that he needs to keep the ball moving forwards when he picks it up in the opposition half. Too many times, his first touch seems to take him back into midfield instead. But that could be put down to his confidence, because he seems to be in a different situation to Alli right now.

While Alli has emerged as a key figure for Spurs, Barkley will not have the same feeling that he is his team’s main man. He is close to it, but I feel that he is being held back from what he is capable of. That is partly as a result of some of the negative comments Koeman has made about him this season and also because he always seems to get moans and groans from the crowd if things do not go right for him. If he was playing with the same belief as Alli, he would be a different beast.”

Spot on for me that. Underlines the belief I hold that Ross's game has been neutered by Koeman and not enhanced. We have a lot more bits and pieces tracking back and playing the ball off short, but almost expunged from his game now are creative bursts forward taking the opposition on and driving them back. That is backed up statistically, by the way....

Average number of dribbles per game:

Season 2016/17 1.4

Season 2015/16 3.1

Season 2014/15 3.0

Maybe has to do with the attacking players each team has Dave

Why also does a dribble mean it's creative, mcgeady used to dribble past the same man on two or three times - ultimately it's just a stat isn't it? Same type of stats you've regularly dismissed when others post them up.

When your trying to take on two to three players because there's no one beyond you besides a heavily marked striker, then ultimately barely a point except for the once in a blue moon highlight dribble and goal like against the barcodes.
 
Jermaine Jenas:

“If there is an element of his game that I think Barkley could take from Alli, it is that he needs to keep the ball moving forwards when he picks it up in the opposition half. Too many times, his first touch seems to take him back into midfield instead. But that could be put down to his confidence, because he seems to be in a different situation to Alli right now.

While Alli has emerged as a key figure for Spurs, Barkley will not have the same feeling that he is his team’s main man. He is close to it, but I feel that he is being held back from what he is capable of. That is partly as a result of some of the negative comments Koeman has made about him this season and also because he always seems to get moans and groans from the crowd if things do not go right for him. If he was playing with the same belief as Alli, he would be a different beast.”

Spot on for me that. Underlines the belief I hold that Ross's game has been neutered by Koeman and not enhanced. We have a lot more bits and pieces tracking back and playing the ball off short, but almost expunged from his game now are creative bursts forward taking the opposition on and driving them back. That is backed up statistically, by the way....

Average number of dribbles per game:

Season 2016/17 1.4

Season 2015/16 3.1

Season 2014/15 3.0

Have u got the stats for completed dribbles?

His constant messi attempts which invariably ended in a dead end were the most frustrating aspect of his play.

Thankfully koeman has removed them from his game. Top managers do that sort of thing.
 

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