Souness in 'downer for all things Everton related' shocker
Ross Barkley joins Chelsea, er, Villa on loan
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Souness in 'downer for all things Everton related' shocker
Unless that is you're Yakubu when 26 is followed by 21 and 30 by 23
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Martinez used him to help hand us our best ever PL season, ply our best ever football since the 80's, get us to two domestic cup SFs, and in return Barkley became a full England international.
Koeman destroyed Barkley's progress. Koeman pushed him out the door - and with the carpet bagger's blessing.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Marco Silva would have him here in a heartbeat.
Played some of his best footy under Martinez.
Not entirely sure about that mate, I thought he was brilliant in the second half of the season in Koemans first season when he was played on the right as a sort of wide playmaker with Coleman overlapping. Him, Lukaku and Schneiderlin were brilliant in that period,
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
You mean like Peter Reid ?
Baines was everything we ask of a player, Barkley was a rat
Not getting into a long winded pointless argument with you over a Chelsea player, but Ross is not the exciting, fearless player he was when under Martinez in his first season. He's a safety first, quite run of the mill midfielder, who created a goal and actually scored his First goal of the season off his shins.
I would have the Barkley who played that season, not this Barkley now unless he drastically improved.
Even then I would find it very hard to forgive the way he slid out of Everton costing us a small fortune.
Said the same, add Dave Watson to that as well, Dave just doesn't seem to grasp that or is so set in his ways he just won't. This grudge against Baines is incredulous.
BigMick
Player Valuation: £20m
Agreed, but only briefly and he became increasingly inconsistent in Martinez' 2nd and 3rd seasons, to the extent that he was eventually hauled off and left out, even by Roberto. Under The Golfer he had his most consistent spell, not brilliant but good. Souness is right in that article, he did things at Southampton that he never showed at Everton where, as he says, he too often beat a man, or even two, got to the edge of the box then lost possession or gave it away. Martinez never attempted to correct this obvious flaw in his game, or if he did, he failed.
In addition to the better coaching he seems to be receiving, I'm sure his spell in the 'wilderness' combined with watching just how hard Chelsea's better players work on and off the ball has made him more receptive to advice. Still got a long way to go to reach and stay at their level.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I agree to a degree. I'd rather have the swashbuckling player who turns and runs at defences and has a pop. However, he has been lacking in reining that in and doing what's right for the team as a whole in the past. So if he adds another string to his bow it will make him - in theory - a more complete player.
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
Its just a silly agenda based around going against everything good about Everton and sticking up for Everthing bad
Not so sure they'll ever get that swashbuckling player back, especially after that injury Dave, but I wish him no ill will. Thought how he left us hanging for a year, then made us wait again while we rehabilitated his injury was just awful. If he comes back to Everton with Chelsea I'll still boo him like, but that's about it, I have total indifference to his career one way or another.
That isn't the Everton way is it? Surely it's only Everton players (and managers) get boooo'd by the home supporters at Goodison
lol
deipnosophist
Player Valuation: £80m
I cannot confirm its veracity, but rumour has it that he and Capt Jags were instrumental in conspiring to bring about Bobby's demise... I imagine they were constantly in the carpet bagger's ear. Apparently, on Bainesy's phone alone, 72 emails were sent to the Iranian...yes, 72...does that number ring a bell??
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