Ronald Koeman discussion

Joey66 · October 15, 2017

ijjysmith said:
Why these 3 games though?

We’ll basically be out of 3 competitions by then.

Exactly to stop the slide v relegation and maybe just have a good FA cup run - are you a nay sayer in the Koeman camp - if so read everywhere majority of fans want rid ASAP!

jceverton · October 15, 2017

stretford blue said:
It's a brilliant post giroud wouldn't turn us into a top 4/6 side the problems are more deep set than that

They're not that deep set we just need to get rid of the chuckle brothers and set the players free :pint2:

stretford blue · October 15, 2017

Badge1878 said:
It's only a matter of time. He's gone in the eyes of the players, fans, media and the bookies. Pre-season performances were passed over in the main without much comment given the new arrivals and qualifying games.

We got lucky at home v Stoke first game as we'd been outplayed for first 30mins, played well against City in the first half. Got smashed by Spurs, out smarted at United, lucky v Bournemoth, embarrassed by Burnley...Atlanta laughed at how bad we were, couldn't beat a mid table Cypriot journeyman team and beat a shocking rabble representing the Mackems. Last won away in the Prem at Palace with a late goal and never looked like winning any other game on the road.

He won't get to January. But he's too arrogant to stand down and admit he's not up to the job. Moshiri backed him Friday so by my reckoning he gets the next two games before the inevitable happens.

Why wait though? It's become toxic. The board should just do business now and discard with him - in a taxi if that helps - this week will just prolong the pain unless we do. Do one Ron, do one.

Pity it's going to take us going out of the europa and the league cup before they realise he's not up to it

ijjysmith · October 15, 2017

Joey66 said:
Exactly to stop the slide v relegation and maybe just have a good FA cup run - are you a nay sayer in the Koeman camp - if so read everywhere majority of fans want rid ASAP!

What mate?

Bazlar · October 15, 2017

I can't see the Board trusting him with anymore money. I know I wouldn't. Therefore, he is gone

BMFin · October 15, 2017

roydo said:
Well I have little truck with unhappy players if I am honest. They are employed and paid well by football clubs. They should do their best.

But. If their boss, who is also paid well to make them win football matches, cant seem to do so, well, thats end game.

That's really what it comes down to. A lot of professional players, in any sport, don't like their coach/manager. Thing is, they respect enough, or fear enough, to play.

Joey66 · October 15, 2017

ijjysmith said:
What mate?

In short do you think RK should stay or go ASAP?

COYBL25 · October 15, 2017

Joey66 said:
In short do you think RK should stay or go ASAP?

You're a force of nature when you're in one of these moods Joey.

Don't let him off the hook

Goat · October 15, 2017

Joey66 said:
In short do you think RK should stay or go ASAP?

I think we need to show our commitment to him and offer him a new contract Joey.

ijjysmith · October 15, 2017

Joey66 said:
In short do you think RK should stay or go ASAP?

Go mate. Now. Not in 3 games time. Now.

As you’re aware I like to give them all a fair chance but there comes a time when our season depends on making a change and that’s now for me.

We won’t though. I see no real pressure from board level on him at all. Not that i would see it I suppose. I just doubt there is any.

ijjysmith · October 15, 2017

COYBL25 said:
You're a force of nature when you're in one of these moods Joey.

Don't let him off the hook

Like one of those baby giraffes that can’t walk yet.

COYBL25 · October 15, 2017

ijjysmith said:
Like one of those baby giraffes that can’t walk yet.

lol

jceverton · October 15, 2017

Khalekan said:
You are a veritable Job....

From Dec 2016

jceverton said:
I'd give it to Unsworth (with Royle) to the end of season and see what he can do. Frankly on what we've seen so far he can't do worse. He's also done a top job with U23's and handled himself really well at the end of last season.

Nothing's changed apart from the fact the guys blown £170 million since then! Depressing :mad:

Goat · October 15, 2017

Anyway I think what we have all learnt over the last few years on here is that whoever takes over next we SIMPLY must not support them, we as a fanbase must call for his sacking after his first press conference.

We have been hurt before, we wont allow anybody to hurt us again.

Fool us once, shame on me, fool us three times, Joeys a meff.

Badge1878 · October 15, 2017

Cork Evertonian said:
It kind of feels like dying a slow horrible death watching Everton at the moment, and with Arsenal and Lyon up next.This could get a lot worse before it get's better imo.Make no mistake about it were in trouble.The performances we are seeing with our very eyes and the league table at the moment is proof enough of that.

He’s gone mate. To think he can turn it round now is beyond his capabilities.

Rightly or wrongly (& it’s the latter) the players know it so we go through the motions of a slow inevitable outcome. We ain’t going to turn it round and play scintillating attacking football and win games - because that’s what he’s need to survive. He’s done the senior players session, had a few come out in support, it’s us not him thing - not many mind you! - had an international break and time to reflect and prepare for this game - then we get the same.

Narrow, nervous in possession, no running behind or creating options for the man on the ball. No use of a large squad to change it and a flat insipid uninspiring and frankly embarrassing display.

As I say, it’s only time that prevents the inevitable. Board know it but don’t want to appear hasty and know thry’ll Have to dig deep in compo to lose him and another squad overhaul after that. No wonder they want to take their time.

If Moshiri backed up his fine words with actions Everton would be looking for a new manager this weekend.