Ronald Koeman discussion

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

in all the complaining about Dave, this sort of stuff from his assorted obsessed fans gets missed. dismissing some football chat as cryarsing and exaggerating others opinions to try and bolster your own point.

Some would say that is Wumming. id just call it silly

Save the faux moral high ground love. You can call it what you like, and I'll do the same ta.

There's been plenty of cry arsing about it since the final whistle, notably the person you mentioned by name.

I note you didn't actually pass comment on the football content of my post btw. Wumming you say......ok love xxx

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Burnley conceded against 10 men and the conceded again with 9 men on the pitch. Numerical advantage should give you hope that you can win, but it's not necessarily a certainty against the top teams away from home. The biggest disappointment for me is we dropped 2 points and I fear the worst playing Chelsea away so soon after split away.

I think Chelsea will be a game too far tbh. 3 big games in 6 days, with a trip to Croatia as one of them will see us run out of steam towards the end of that game. I can't see how physically we'll be able to cope this early in the season.

 

[Chimpy Glassman]

Were we up against it though? They had 10 men, not us.

Yes, they've got better, quicker and more punishing players.

I can't get on board with the 'if' in this situation.

Well, 1-1 is still a good result away at City, wouldn't you say?

 

[Lanolin]

Yes, they've got better, quicker and more punishing players.

Well, 1-1 is still a good result away at City, wouldn't you say?

Better, quicker, more punishing and less players, so it should have evened itself out somewhat in my opinion. A tough 45 minutes of course, but I wouldn't say we should be up against it.

I would say 1-1 is a decent result yes, and have done a few times this morning. Not a really good result though, which is a shame because I'm not sure we'll get many better chances to get one of those this season.

 

[Chimpy Glassman]

Better, quicker, more punishing and less players, so it should have evened itself out somewhat in my opinion. A tough 45 minutes of course, but I wouldn't say we should be up against it.

I would say 1-1 is a decent result yes, and have done a few times this morning. Not a really good result though, which is a shame because I'm not sure we'll get many better chances to get one of those this season.

When we gel and get a raucus number 9 we'll be smashing teams off the park. No doubt.

 

[Tel001]

"They had 10 men though, we should have gone at them and DOMINATED THE GAME."

We "go at" City in that second half, regardless of how many they have on the pitch, we lose. Simple as that. The moves we made in the second 45 gave us a chance to get up the field - and we certainly were up the field way more than we were there last season, or the season before - but we couldn't create a second opening to score.

Defensively, I believe we are quickly becoming one of the best teams in the league. That showed today, all of the back five were excellent, as were Schneiderlin, Gueye and Pickford. Half a mistake from Holgate was all it was, and it was punished.

In no universe was that a bad result. In no universe was that a bad performance. In no universe has Koeman made a gigantic mess of it or have the players bottled it or rubbish like that. Away at the best team in the league, our gameplan beat theirs but an abundance of class and a hint of luck made it a draw.

Pull your bonces in.

You obviously havnt lived in Dave's universe have you

 

[Prevenger17]

How many teams win at City?

How many teams go 1-0 up completely against the run of play only for a City player to get sent off soon after? It was an opportunity missed imo

 

[jackyboy]

Interested to see his gameplan for Sunday as well.

 

[bicycleheader]

Save the faux moral high ground love. You can call it what you like, and I'll do the same ta.

There's been plenty of cry arsing about it since the final whistle, notably the person you mentioned by name.

I note you didn't actually pass comment on the football content of my post btw. Wumming you say......ok love xxx

I've already posted my fair share on the footy cheers. You hadn't covered anything new.

Dismissing of others points as cry-arsing and bedwetting is no different than the worst of Dave's ignoring others points and carrying on blindly. There's been plenty of discussion of the tactics and game, my point on your post is you decided to wum the people with a different opinion than you rather than just talking footy.

 

[hktoffee]

Better, quicker, more punishing and less players, so it should have evened itself out somewhat in my opinion. A tough 45 minutes of course, but I wouldn't say we should be up against it.

I would say 1-1 is a decent result yes, and have done a few times this morning. Not a really good result though, which is a shame because I'm not sure we'll get many better chances to get one of those this season.

If you offered me a point before the match I would take it happily.

Thing is not everything always go in our way. Holgate's individual error costed us two points. Citch have got the best players and spent billions so getting a draw at their place is good enough for me. The old Everton would lose the match 3-1.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

I've already posted my fair share on the footy cheers. You hadn't covered anything new.

Dismissing of others points as cry-arsing and bedwetting is no different than the worst of Dave's ignoring others points and carrying on blindly. There's been plenty of discussion of the tactics and game, my point on your post is you decided to wum the people with a different opinion than you rather than just talking footy.

Pipe down you sanctimonious bore

 

[hktoffee]

Interested to see his gameplan for Sunday as well.

Yes in particular Schneiderlin is suspended. It looks to me only Gana and him are good enough to play DM at this club.

 

[rochdaleblue]

Guardiola has an embarrassment of riches at his disposal, even with our significant outlay this summer you could argue only Keane and Pickford would get anywhere near city's team. I actually thought his change of tactics when down to 10 men made them a better team. Unfortunately we have a number of new players trying to gel as a team and the likes of bolasie and Sandro who could have given us more options; injured. City will win the league and very few teams in the league, will get anything from there.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Had you asked me before the game would I take a point I would've said yes. Hard to see much of what Koeman got wrong the tactics he asked the team to play worked well and meant we came close to winning it. Holgates error meant it was a draw, but we put on attacking players to counter and get the second which is what we should be expected to do against 10 men. Give city some credit, they are a very good squad, well established as a team and can replace £50m players with similar from the bench (their defence budget is as high as some countries!). It feels deflating because we got so close. Hope it build some confidence for Chelsea and we can play a bit more expansive stuff but results matter and it's a tough early run. I'd settle for unbeaten in the first 5.

 

[Lanolin]

If you offered me a point before the match I would take it happily.

Thing is not everything always go in our way. Holgate's individual error costed us two points. Citch have got the best players and spent billions so getting a draw at their place is good enough for me. The old Everton would lose the match 3-1.

I would have taken a point before the game too.

The point I've been making is that I don't think the old Everton would have lost 3-1. I don't think there's any evidence to suggest that at all. In the 9 away games at City since they became monied, we've won 3, drawn 3 and lost 3. None of the losses came against 10 men.