Ronald Koeman discussion

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Khalekan said:
Anyone with half a brain cell :pint2:
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True Khal, but at the same point last season, after 20 games, we where 3 points above Saints (27 compared to 24 points) he had them finishing 16 points above in the end and only just missed out on CL (3 points off compared to say us missing out in 13/14 by 7)

Due to Leicester being the story of last season, just how well he did was overlooked.
 

Evertonized said:
Delighted that Koeman isn't giving the bad players a chance to waste 6 more months. It's a bit harsh, but it just shows how 'easy' some players were taking life at Everton - the fact he's admitted some haven't even bothered to train properly under him says everything about Martinez.

When you look at some of Martinez's signings under Everton, I suppose we are very lucky that the board acted fast and didn't give him another year. The majority of the first 11 are still Moyes signings which says a lot.

Good - McCarthy, Lukaku, Barry
Average - Deulofeu, Lennon, Robles, Besic
Poor - Kone, Alcaraz, McGeady, Eto

Just hoping that Koeman makes good progress and gets the changes needed over the January and Summer transfer windows, in time for August.
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Agree with all of that but the board acting fast. If the board acted fast and sacked him after anfield we would've won the cup mate.
 
Sharpys top lip said:
Massively come round to him me, wasn't sure after some of his comments and the style of play. But he's exactly what we need right now. He won't let anyone get away with anything....player or board. Me personally, I've needed that for 20 years.

I'm 100% behind him.
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He's been coming out with this guff since before the season started, and the performances aren't coming as a result. So perhaps slagging the team off at every possible opportunity isn't helping, and he's just masking his own deficiencies.

Just a thought.
 
The Cowboy said:
He's been coming out with this guff since before the season started, and the performances aren't coming as a result. So perhaps slagging the team off at every possible opportunity isn't helping, and he's just masking his own deficiencies.

Just a thought.
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Possibly but maybe its the deficiencies of the players he inherited and he cannot do much with them. I think when he finally gets his players in then he will then be responsible for the deficiencies and then rightly they will be his own.
 

The Cowboy said:
He's been coming out with this guff since before the season started, and the performances aren't coming as a result. So perhaps slagging the team off at every possible opportunity isn't helping, and he's just masking his own deficiencies.

Just a thought.
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He's been brought in to do a job. This is the way he works and Moshiri will have known that before hiring him. It's exactly what the club needs - it would be pointless Koeman adapting himself and his methods to get the best out of the players he doesn't want - when he came in on the promise of getting players he does want.
 
The Cowboy said:
He's been coming out with this guff since before the season started, and the performances aren't coming as a result. So perhaps slagging the team off at every possible opportunity isn't helping, and he's just masking his own deficiencies.

Just a thought.
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As another thought, maybe by slagging them off he's seen which ones have a bit of fight about them and which ones are just a waste of space and gutless.

We saw the opposite way of treating them with OFM, and that turned out very bad for him, long as the board back him in shipping out anyone who doesn't fit his team then fair does, the strategy of tough speaking will work
 
Hangleton said:
He's been brought in to do a job. This is the way he works and Moshiri will have known that before hiring him. It's exactly what the club needs - it would be pointless Koeman adapting himself and his methods to get the best out of the players he doesn't want - when he came in on the promise of getting players he does want.
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Unless Moshiri is clueless about footy (which apparently he isn't) then hiring Koeman - you know what your getting, which is a manager who will be quite ruthless and say it how it is, and maybe the new owner realised that someone like that was needed to gut the squad and try build it without the flaws that weve had for 20 odd years (lack of fight, character and winning mentality)
 

bluestevon said:
Unless Moshiri is clueless about footy (which apparently he isn't) then hiring Koeman - you know what your getting, which is a manager who will be quite ruthless and say it how it is, and maybe the new owner realised that someone like that was needed to gut the squad and try build it without the flaws that weve had for 20 odd years (lack of fight, character and winning mentality)
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Definitely. I think Koeman had been on Arsenals radar While Mosh was there.
 

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