Ronald Koeman discussion

fandjango · December 29, 2016

Blue Cheese said:
I've had a change of heart, I fear I was to quick to put the boot in.

Am I happy the way things have gone, not a chance but people are correct, let's see what he can do after a transfer window or 2, seeing Bob Bradley sacked made me realise how silly it would be because I found myself saying "he deserved more time".

So, I will continue to criticise and I always fume at defeats but I won't be calling for Koemans head unless things get really bad.

I'm sure he cares as you lot do but I thought I'd share.

Takes a proper man that I applaud you sir

Deco · December 29, 2016

Interesting comments from him about the club, players and the future.

He's adamant that we'll strengthen our squad and re-iterated the ambitions of the club.

Liked that he said (about people questioning him joining us) that we're a big club (bigger than Southampton), and that this isn't a two week job - it's a long term job for him.

He has a certain confidence and happiness about the club and our intentions at the moment which is good to see. Makes me think we will be doing some big moves this window.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...ld-fight-future-ronald-koeman-intent-january/

davek · December 30, 2016

“We need to finish in a position around where the team is now. Everybody knows that is the ambition of the club, and also my ambition".

Sorry, if Moyes would have come out with that he'd have been battered.

7th place = ambition for Southampton mate. You need to go and brush up on the club's history you say you're aware of.

Goat · December 30, 2016

davek said:
“We need to finish in a position around where the team is now. Everybody knows that is the ambition of the club, and also my ambition".

Sorry, if Moyes would have come out with that he'd have been battered.

7th place = ambition for Southampton mate. You need to go and brush up on the club's history you say you're aware of.

HES BACK!!!

hktoffee · December 30, 2016

davek said:
“We need to finish in a position around where the team is now. Everybody knows that is the ambition of the club, and also my ambition".

Sorry, if Moyes would have come out with that he'd have been battered.

7th place = ambition for Southampton mate. You need to go and brush up on the club's history you say you're aware of.

This is the reality. Look at the squad of the curent top 6. If we don't spend and don't get new players in then yes 7th. What do you expect dave?

DanEFC92 · December 30, 2016

davek said:
“We need to finish in a position around where the team is now. Everybody knows that is the ambition of the club, and also my ambition".

Sorry, if Moyes would have come out with that he'd have been battered.

7th place = ambition for Southampton mate. You need to go and brush up on the club's history you say you're aware of.

How come you go missing every time we win, chief?

davek · December 30, 2016

hktoffee said:
This is the reality. Look at the squad of the curent top 6. If we don't spend and don't get new players in then yes 7th. What do you expect dave?

Mate, the feller is talking about AMBITION. Is that your ambition? No, and it's not mine either. If he means expectation for this season then fair enough. If he thinks in the next few seasons plodding long behind 6 other clubs is acceptable he can do one...and this feller has actually said in the near past he wants us to get back to being 'best of the rest'...the most toe curling line spoken by an Everton manager since knife to a gunfight.

davek · December 30, 2016

DanEFC92 said:
How come you go missing every time we win, chief?

Do I? I went missing after the demolition derby too - so where does that leave us?

Cork Evertonian · December 30, 2016

davek said:
“We need to finish in a position around where the team is now. Everybody knows that is the ambition of the club, and also my ambition".

Sorry, if Moyes would have come out with that he'd have been battered.

7th place = ambition for Southampton mate. You need to go and brush up on the club's history you say you're aware of.

I think after the last two seasons 7th is reasonable enough if we stay there.I don't know what yourself and the Zat man were expecting but i think being best of the rest sums up where we are at right now.Look at where we were in the table after Martinez got the boot!The top six teams are all a fair bit ahead of us in their development and they also invested a lot more money in their squads.The table clearly illustrates that.It's not been spectacular so far but Koeman is gradually turning us around.

hktoffee · December 30, 2016

davek said:
Mate, the feller is talking about AMBITION. Is that your ambition? No, and it's not mine either. If he means expectation for this season then fair enough. If he thinks in the next few seasons plodding long behind 6 other clubs is acceptable he can do one...and this feller has actually said in the near past he wants us to get back to being 'best of the rest'...the most toe curling line spoken by an Everton manager since knife to a gunfight.

Think he did say this season. He said this is a long term project.

Mate this has to be backed by the board. Funds must be provided. What's the problem if he is being pragmatic for the time being, given the squad we have at the moment? You can spout loads of bull out like getting top 4 but if you can't do it, it's just tosh.

roydo · December 30, 2016

davek said:
Do I? I went missing after the demolition derby too - so where does that leave us?

Demolition? Blimey.

You mean the 4 0 Martinez masterclass when Anfield serenaded him?

davek · December 30, 2016

Cork Evertonian said:
I think after the last two seasons 7th is reasonable enough if we stay there.I don't know what yourself and the Zat man were expecting but i think being best of the rest sums up where we are at right now.Look at where we were in the table after Martinez got the boot!The top six teams are all a fair bit ahead of us in their development and they also invested a lot more money in their squads.The table clearly illustrates that.It's not been spectacular so far but Koeman is gradually turning us around.

Lets have it right: 7th is adequate. It is NOT an ambition for this club. Any manager who says it should be needs to be educated.

davek · December 30, 2016

roydo said:
Demolition? Blimey.

We were humiliated in front of a global audience...Everton and their 'wild football'. That German weapon had us bang on under Koeman. Our 'football' beamed around the world. Agricultural, clueless, savage. Utterly embarrassing.

Goat · December 30, 2016

davek said:
We were humiliated in front of a global audience...Everton and their 'wild football'. That German weapon had us bang on under Koeman. Our 'football' beamed around the world. Agricultural, clueless, savage. Utterly embarrassing.

lollollollol

polish · December 30, 2016

davek said:
“We need to finish in a position around where the team is now. Everybody knows that is the ambition of the club, and also my ambition".

Sorry, if Moyes would have come out with that he'd have been battered.

7th place = ambition for Southampton mate. You need to go and brush up on the club's history you say you're aware of.

“This season we need to finish around a position where the team is now. But everybody knows the normal ambition of the club [to go higher] is also my ambition.

“But it needs to be a realistic target and that is difficult. Sometimes the people are not always realistic when you need time to improve and you need time to get a better team. When I spoke to Everton I realised the situation of the club and the challenge to move them on. I knew at that time that it was difficult. It is long-term job - not for two weeks or two months.”

Sounds a little bit different for me.