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Yes, provided Celtic, Aberdeen and Rangers moved up to the epl
DownunderToffee
Player Valuation: £15m
Finished 11th last two season's, currently 7th when all the top 6 are firing - what more do people want when we still have such a daft squad and Koeman (And Walsh) haven't had much time to bring in fresh talent.
Along with Moshiri paying off our debts, getting a new stadium and finishing off the Chang deal, we're setting a nice platform to achieve bigger things but everyone needs to be patient.
This isn't just accepting mediocrity like the Moyes era.
Along with Moshiri paying off our debts, getting a new stadium and finishing off the Chang deal, we're setting a nice platform to achieve bigger things but everyone needs to be patient.
This isn't just accepting mediocrity like the Moyes era.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
All young players signed / developed who played last night;
Rose
Walker
Dier
Alli
Kane
Winks (sub)
Thats half a team there.
This allows you to spend on the other half of the team to compliment these guys.
I hope that over the next 2 seasons we can also bring through a handful of players which allows us to spend big on the others.
Currently, we have Holgate, Barkley Calvert-Lewin and Davies who should be there or thereabouts and with Lookman signing in Jan + a couple of others to come through we may be able to do so.
hktoffee
Birds of a feather flock together
Barkley, Coleman, Davies, Holgate, Lookman (if signed). We are not that behind.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Currently;
Barkley
Coleman (forgot him)
Holgate
Davies
Lookman (if signed))
Galloway (next season)
Calvert-Lewin (getting mins)
Hopefully
Kenny
Walsh
Connolly
Dowell
At least in the squad of 25 that would be impressive. Bar the 3 keepers for a squad, thats half of it.
hktoffee
Birds of a feather flock together
Think the 5 will get regular gametime next season. We will fill the other squad places with incoming new players in particular attacking options. Galloway and CL will be loaned out.
The remaining youth players I have no idea whether they will make the step up.
Gwladysstreetlad
Player Valuation: £50m
And what good did all those seeds of optimism do for Martinez after his first season Joey? We need honesty and practical management at the club right now, not flowery speeches and propaganda. I've seen enough to be optimistic about the future of the club under Koeman, it might be a painful season but we'll be in a much better position at the end of it then we we're last season.
Blue Cheese
Mental Patient, GOT Ward
Boils my piss we are compared to Southampton, who have never won a damn thing. Not to cover old ground but it's very pat on the head stuff.
I hope to share your optimism - that first half v leicester was as bad as I have seen - we have not seen a full 90 minute performance of quality as yet - RM first season had its faults we may have got a top 4 position - bad defending and keeping cost us that -lets see what RK can do then!
smileychap
Player Valuation: £10m
Uh. That was great until the body punch at the end!
I feel compelled to check... do you mean the football was mediocre or Moyes achievements?
IMHO, Moyes was brilliant. League position, cash, transfers, Europe, FA Cup Semi & Final - everything was up. I do accept (especially as I'm a WOOL) that his demeanour and way of talking about Everton re money and 'size of club' was unnecessarily dour at times, especially to Everton generations who know what a massive club Everton is - long before David Moyes joined. For the record, I think he's made similar gaffs re: money and whining about Utd still during his tenure at Sunderland. Comes across as a bit of a chip on the shoulder which is a shame - he doesn't need to give context to how well he's done.
But personally I've never enjoyed watching Everton more than the fight, team ethics and skill on display from overlooked and under-rated players (Yak, Piennar, Coleman, Unsworth, Yobo, Lescott, Cahill, Arteta, BD etc), when he had us socking it to the best of 'em. Big Dunc 1-0. Thank you David. And for the bank balance, European nights, and respect of other fans who wanted a proper 'British team' to support (mgt, ethics, ownership - not a merry go round of mercenary agent/ mgt fodder). Our international players loved the club - and were part of an XI that pretty upset the money apple cart every year you were here. What everyone loved about Leicester in 2015-2016 Moyes pretty much did year in and out for us, just a shame no trophy but things could have been A LOT WORSE!
Gwladysstreetlad
Player Valuation: £50m
But comparing Koeman'a first season and Martinez is comparing apples and oranges. Everything was different. Martinez inherited a decent side in a good place who knew their business and knew how to defend. Martinez took all that and made us play different then we had in years. It shocked people who thought they knew how we played but it became less and less effective once people figured us out. In any event it all fell off cliff in the second season didn't it? Koeman has inherited a poor side that is a combination of player's who are either past it or never had it to begin with. It's not all about one season in isolation anyway, it's about were we are in two or three years. I'm taking the long term view here. If we're still playing like this next season and struggling I'll agree with you but right now we're 7th and winning ugly and that's enough for me right now. I'd rather we won playing ugly then play phenomenal football and lose. In your point over Leicester, come on mate it really wasn't that bad. You think the first half vs Leicester this season was worse then last season?! Or any of the abominations we've seen for the last two years?!
It is hard to compare, but RK will have to come far better imo his team selections are baffling not just me imo
Let's see, we need to off load a lot of deadwood players for him to rebuild, Stones we had cover for, midfield and strikers is where we are lacking - also buying the Stek has now took a turn of medorocraty - another keeper is needed with the hope Robles can or may come good or not we did have a net spend in summer signings with just using the Stones money!
It's still sell to buy TBF to him so far but Saturdays first half was very poor the worse I have seen v a weakened Leicester side!
Real_madras
Player Valuation: £6m
It was never going to be an over night change, in fortunes. He only had a very short window in the summer from joining. Most managers plan their summer signings throughout the year. He got a couple of weeks to assess the squad he inherited. He has to undo, 3/years of Roberto's, idea of what defense is. Then has to get players who can play the way he wants. Obviously, a lot of the current squad can't do that. It takes time to sell these players to make room for the new ones.
We have to give Ronald at least a year. I'm sure by the start of next season we'll have a very different first eleven than we have now.
We have to give Ronald at least a year. I'm sure by the start of next season we'll have a very different first eleven than we have now.
Blue Cheese
Mental Patient, GOT Ward
I've had a change of heart, I fear I was to quick to put the boot in.
Am I happy the way things have gone, not a chance but people are correct, let's see what he can do after a transfer window or 2, seeing Bob Bradley sacked made me realise how silly it would be because I found myself saying "he deserved more time".
So, I will continue to criticise and I always fume at defeats but I won't be calling for Koemans head unless things get really bad.
I'm sure he cares as you lot do but I thought I'd share.
Am I happy the way things have gone, not a chance but people are correct, let's see what he can do after a transfer window or 2, seeing Bob Bradley sacked made me realise how silly it would be because I found myself saying "he deserved more time".
So, I will continue to criticise and I always fume at defeats but I won't be calling for Koemans head unless things get really bad.
I'm sure he cares as you lot do but I thought I'd share.
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