Kev The Rat
Player Valuation: £70m
He may spend 40-50m on players in Jan. He spent 40-50m on players in the summer and nothing has happened. That will be 100m for no return whatsoever.
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The Blue Watch
Player Valuation: £15m
No worries mate, he'll bring McAuley in and sort us out.
Who are you signing in your push for 2nd place?
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I dont think that's likely, tbh. He'll get money in January (presumably) and this league is so poor beyond 6 teams that we would have to have the worst possible second half of the season imaginable.
hktoffee
Birds of a feather flock together
Yes he spent the Stones money but then I won't just write him off after 6 months. In the end you need money to add quality to the team. And the season is finished in May.
The last manager had £16m net per season he still got 11th and 12th.
Just strikes me as the sort that would if he isn't backed. Obviously he might be backed but based on the summer I'm not sure.
Mikeonlythebestwilldo
Player Valuation: £20m
Dave mate you've said a lot of rubbish about moshiri too , the club has loads to do rebuilding on and off the pitch , I do get some of your points I really do , but some I really disagree with . Everton FC at the moment is a really big project on and off the field matey they need more time more of koemans players
loooweee
Player Valuation: £10m
I think theirs is a real short termism in koemans view atm and that is infecting an already problematic squad. Is there any good managers out there ?
He had not shown enough for me to deserve another window purely for his acceptance and passiveness of some dire dire performances this season
He had not shown enough for me to deserve another window purely for his acceptance and passiveness of some dire dire performances this season
Wish I could be a top blue like you mate.
Mikeonlythebestwilldo
Player Valuation: £20m
Davek mate I wasn't having ago at you about that I admit it's disgraceful
loooweee
Player Valuation: £10m
Can we just write this season off, blood as much of the youngsters and promote unsworth, I would prefer this than seeing koeman buy hand me downs from man u and short term crappiness like bolasie (not dissing him he done well but come on)
Sigh just very miserable and dull days for Everton fans
Sigh just very miserable and dull days for Everton fans
...yep, I thought about this after @The Esk posted the other week mentioning the plan. If I recall rightly; season 1 was progress, season 2 EL qualification and season 3 Champions League. I was going to ask what happens if the season 1 target fails. After 10 games I think we could say we were progressing from a points perspective even if performances were poor, but since then the return has been very poor.
I wonder if some of the impatience with Koeman is the fact that it seems to be a short-term stopgap. Everything about his demeanor as well as the general assumptions around his move from Saints makes it seem like he's been brought in to steady the ship and get us on an upward trajectory for the real future manager to come in.
Thing is, when you're a short term solution, people expect quick results. When you don't layout a vision for where you plan to be, the expectation is that you hit the ground running with results.
I have no idea if Koeman actually sees us as a stepping stone, or if we see him the same way. But the appearance is that we see each other as a means to an end. It doesn't really matter if that's the case from a pressure standpoint.
Martinez got a little more patience because he clearly had a plan (it was not a good plan, as it happens), and then got a LOT more patience due to that first season. It's no surprise that people are turning on a 'stopgap' manager that isn't getting results quickly.
Thing is, when you're a short term solution, people expect quick results. When you don't layout a vision for where you plan to be, the expectation is that you hit the ground running with results.
I have no idea if Koeman actually sees us as a stepping stone, or if we see him the same way. But the appearance is that we see each other as a means to an end. It doesn't really matter if that's the case from a pressure standpoint.
Martinez got a little more patience because he clearly had a plan (it was not a good plan, as it happens), and then got a LOT more patience due to that first season. It's no surprise that people are turning on a 'stopgap' manager that isn't getting results quickly.
No.
I worked far too hard to find the dough to pay a monkey for a season ticket just to see a season written off before Santa calls
But I do take your point.....
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
No, but he'd be on a very short leash next season. He has to be showing us a solid game plan by that time.
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