Ronald Koeman discussion

[blulouie]

I didnt expect people to pointlessly try and obfuscate the real issue at hand. Which is that in the modern era moyes is our third greatest manager.

But you didnt mention the modern era.
You only mentioned "in our history"

But change it as you like tho if it suits.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

I was mate but I've seen Man Utd tread water since he left which kind of gets him off the hook there.

I've seen us have two frauds as managers both of whom now make moyes look like a paragon of virtue and integrity. We have seen consecutive humiliations at the hands of the rs and the worst performance I have ever seen from an Everton side against Chelski.

The moyes years now appear as some kind of golden age whether we like it or not.

More like Stone Age.

 

[Kev The Rat]

More like Stone Age.

And that makes koeman and Martinez what?

 

[blulouie]

And that makes koeman and Martinez what?

Angst after 13 games....crikey.

Its great the "I want it right now" generation.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Angst after 13 games....crikey.

Its great the "I want it right now" generation.

Fair enough - I've seen what I would consider to be adequate evidence that the bloke isn't going to bring anything at all to the table.

 

[blulouie]

Fair enough - I've seen what I would consider to be adequate evidence that the bloke isn't going to bring anything at all to the table.

I'm sure you could give this fella a chance if your prepared to give him a bit of time to rid the club of the deadwood we've accumulated over the years.
We put up with Moyes for 11 trophyless , park the bus years , at least give Koeman a couple of windows , then if nowts changed fire away.

 

[Kev The Rat]

I'm sure you could give this fella a chance if your prepared to give him a bit of time to rid the club of the deadwood we've accumulated over the years.
We put up with Moyes for 11 trophyless , park the bus years , at least give Koeman a couple of windows , then if nowts changed fire away.

Not convinced of this deadwood argument I keep hearing about either.

Didn't moyes get the likes of osman jags and Cahill firing?

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

And that makes koeman and Martinez what?

Martinez was a amoeba in the primordial soup.
Koeman is just at the start of his tenure, a long way to go before I cast judgement on him.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Martinez was a amoeba in the primordial soup.
Koeman is just at the start of his tenure, a long way to go before I cast judgement on him.

And yet we are already at the point where his 'supporters' are demanding the entire squad be replaced so he can work his magic?

 

[blulouie]

Not convinced of this deadwood argument I keep hearing about either.

Didn't moyes get the likes of osman jags and Cahill firing?

2 out of them 3 were never deadwood...the 3rd was an adequate squad player.

 

[Kev The Rat]

2 out of them 3 were never deadwood...the 3rd was an adequate squad player.

Cahill would have been deadwood under the likes of koeman and Martinez of that I'm certain. Martinez and koeman have turned jags into deadwood certainly.

 

[blulouie]

Cahill would have been deadwood under the likes of koeman and Martinez of that I'm certain. Martinez and koeman have turned jags into deadwood certainly.

Cant agree with you at all there.
A fully fit Cahill & younger Jags would fit right in his ethos.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

And yet we are already at the point where his 'supporters' are demanding the entire squad be replaced so he can work his magic?

I don't support Koeman I support Everton, and giving a manager a reasonable amount of time to prove himself seems sensible. Even if he does fail there are far better options than Moyes returning.

 

[Kev The Rat]

I don't support Koeman I support Everton, and giving a manager a reasonable amount of time to prove himself seems sensible. Even if he does fail there are far better options than Moyes returning.

But you believe giving him a reasonable amount of time includes shipping out the entire squad to be replaced by another one?

 

[Kev The Rat]

Cant agree with you at all there.
A fully fit Cahill & younger Jags would fit right in his ethos.

Lol he would never have got either of those firing. Face facts they were both limited footballers who happened to be drilled the right way. Koeman brings nothing at all least of all hard work and discipline. He very often doesn't take training so how is he going to get his message across consistently.