JLW
Player Valuation: £70m
This should of been done after the derby drubbing at Anfield until the end of the season
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Thomasc
Formerly known as By God I'm Blue
At the start of 2016 we had Kenwright and Coco the clown in charge.
At the start of 2017 we will have Moshiri and a manager that has had 2 very good seasons on the bounce with Southampton and is clearly a league above his bumbling predecessor in terms of being a player, a manager and of course how serious people will take him in the game.
Rejoice, times are changing.
At the start of 2017 we will have Moshiri and a manager that has had 2 very good seasons on the bounce with Southampton and is clearly a league above his bumbling predecessor in terms of being a player, a manager and of course how serious people will take him in the game.
Rejoice, times are changing.
The Penalty Box Dancer
Player Valuation: £35m
If Koeman is a good as you all say he is but he underachieves this season, should he be given another season and if you think yes then why? Surely if he is that good.....
Thought I was on ignore with you? Ha......
If we don't finish 10th or above then questions need to be asked of not just Koeman, but everybody at the club.
Two seasons, minimum, barring a disaster.
The aim is top seven this year though and anything below that will be considered an underachievement - not just by the fans but Koeman himself.
But Koeman is a realist. That is why he clashes with some sets of fans to some extent.
I'm in no way blaming the fans. It's football and it's what makes it so great, but people just need to - every once in a while - take a back seat and just look at it from a different perspective.
Thomasc
Formerly known as By God I'm Blue
He needs to rebuild a side that has for the last 2 years had some infantile manager blabbing in their ear and making out everything was OK when it wasn't. He needs at least a season to get rid of the rotten apples and build his own side and only then for me can he be judged.
The transfer window was a disaster, we have heard from Moshiri why that was. We need to try and start rebuilding in January if we can actually manage to offload some of the complete dross brought in by Coco.
He has been actually in the job with the team he puts out for 4 months. Have some fans become so short sighted and deluded or just a bit childish and impatient? Would some maybe be resembling the behaviour of the lovable Geordies that tend to get mocked a lot on here for the way they behave?
JLW
Player Valuation: £70m
He needs time at least 2 full seasons. He needs his own players that fit into the system he wants to play.
Look at them lot across the park scraped a draw at west brom and celebrated like they achieved something in front of the kop, got smashed 3-0 by Watford last season and looking like they were no different from the team that got Rodgers sacked!!
Roll on 12 months and......well no more words needed!!!
Give him time be patient mate, i'm confident all will come good... Two top 6 finishes with Southampton is not bad going for a manager
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
I think he will come good too, but its imperative that we get to spend in line with the expectations that have built up, and he makes the team/squad his own. Then he can be judged fairly.
The squad has deteriorated to such a degree in my view that RK will only have limited gain in things like tactical reorganisation and whatever motivational techniques he can avail of.
In many ways it is the perfect storm which he has inherited. Rising expectations which are at a 25-year high coupled with the natural decline and aging of large parts of the squad, and the damage to good habits, consistency, and discipline inflicted by his predecessor.
Whomever succeeded Martinez would have faced the same uphill challenges. RK is certainly responsible and accountable from day one, that's what he is paid for. But he is certainly entitled to some slack also.
EDIT: It also strikes me, that whilst I was not a particular fan of Moyes, he did to his credit shield us for a decade from the true costs of underinvestment and inept business management. Take Moshiri out of the equation (and you can do, as this squad at present has not benefitted from a big cash injection) and you just see the end-results of a generation of stagnation. Time has caught up with the present squad exacerbated by the lack of a steady hand (Martinez) and this is what Koeman has walked into.
The squad has deteriorated to such a degree in my view that RK will only have limited gain in things like tactical reorganisation and whatever motivational techniques he can avail of.
In many ways it is the perfect storm which he has inherited. Rising expectations which are at a 25-year high coupled with the natural decline and aging of large parts of the squad, and the damage to good habits, consistency, and discipline inflicted by his predecessor.
Whomever succeeded Martinez would have faced the same uphill challenges. RK is certainly responsible and accountable from day one, that's what he is paid for. But he is certainly entitled to some slack also.
EDIT: It also strikes me, that whilst I was not a particular fan of Moyes, he did to his credit shield us for a decade from the true costs of underinvestment and inept business management. Take Moshiri out of the equation (and you can do, as this squad at present has not benefitted from a big cash injection) and you just see the end-results of a generation of stagnation. Time has caught up with the present squad exacerbated by the lack of a steady hand (Martinez) and this is what Koeman has walked into.
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He said it while counting 50 pound notes.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I'm reliably informed it's been the average finish for a decade.
ijjysmith
Calm
Fine by me!
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