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I can't help but feel the players have learned all they can from the manager and that manager being so young while at the same time I see a bottled and weak mentality that has been instilled by previous manager.
 
Hugely frustrating game and disappointing result, but I genuinely GENUINELY can't see how the team or the manager get blamed for that. We never stopped attacking. I have never seen a more one-dimensional defensive performance: masterclass maybe, but as i watched I kept thinking, "Jesus it sucks to support Everton but thank the lord I don't have to support West Brom." Wow. They literally play like it's rugby: gaining yardage. And the fouls, and time wasting, and subs. Some on here will be wagging wisely and saying, "Game management," but that is not any kind of football I could cheer week in week out. Thought our heads never dropped. It was a soft goal no doubt. But what could we have done differently in terms of attack? They basically had 11 pairs of legs and arms in the box for 75 minutes. We can quibble about the subs, but any fair-minded supporter can see the logic in the subs. Osman was the neat player who was going to weave a path through their maginot line. Don't think Kev would have worked with a team where there is absolutely NO transition phase. They always kept two lines of 4 in their half. You can fume at our season and fume at other games where we capitulated or didn't show up. But I just see that today.
 

Sane time the standards of fitness and effort is pathetic from the manager and you can see when we are deep in the oppositions half trying walk the ball in cos we don't like track back so much if we lose it I know it sounds harsh but it is almost like everyone is worried about their passing acuraccy stats a bit too much.
 
LAToffee said:
Hugely frustrating game and disappointing result, but I genuinely GENUINELY can't see how the team or the manager get blamed for that. We never stopped attacking. I have never seen a more one-dimensional defensive performance: masterclass maybe, but as i watched I kept thinking, "Jesus it sucks to support Everton but thank the lord I don't have to support West Brom." Wow. They literally play like it's rugby: gaining yardage. And the fouls, and time wasting, and subs. Some on here will be wagging wisely and saying, "Game management," but that is not any kind of football I could cheer week in week out. Thought our heads never dropped. It was a soft goal no doubt. But what could we have done differently in terms of attack? They basically had 11 pairs of legs and arms in the box for 75 minutes. We can quibble about the subs, but any fair-minded supporter can see the logic in the subs. Osman was the neat player who was going to weave a path through their maginot line. Don't think Kev would have worked with a team where there is absolutely NO transition phase. They always kept two lines of 4 in their half. You can fume at our season and fume at other games where we capitulated or didn't show up. But I just see that today.
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mascoq66700 said:
I wouldn't argue with your newer figures,but for a team with the squad we have that should be targeting EL minimum it's poor to say the least,and I'm sure it'll be a subject of discussion at team meetings in Bournemouth this week and other clubs in the coming weeks.What disappointed me today was with the number of corners and free kicks we had no really clear cut chances were created.
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Funes Mori had an effort get blocked almost on the line. Don't really see that as our shortcoming. Would have liked to seen us move the ball quicker. Also would like to see James McCarthy be able to hit a clean strike under pressure. When he has time he is decent but whenever anyone closes he wets his pants and scuffs it.
 

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