Relegation

[billyblue80]

12:30 kick off on Saturday, everyone half asleep/hungover having had no lunch.

Ah well, there’s always the next home game against Ar... oh ang on.

If we had a new manager even a temporary one going into that it would lift everyone

 

[billyblue80]

I'm just not seeing it. We are one centre back injury away from a crisis from a centre back group that isn't very good anyway. Our back up left back has not played for ages, we have nothing in centre midfield at all currently with 2 of our starters being out with a long term injury and our other starter never fit and we have limited options up front. Our best players (other than Digne) seem to be a bunch of somewhat similar players who don't have a settled position who keep getting shifted everywhere (and have been at other clubs not just here under Silva).

We should have enough to stay out of trouble but who knows.

Largely agree the current available squad (with the injuries) is average to poor but a good manager adapts. Silva cannot adapt it's always excuses even with everyone fit there is always an excuse. The buck stops with him.

 

[Lanolin]

Possibly the first time for about 20 years that I've thought it's a genuine possibility. I don't think changing the manager is guaranteed to save us either. This is not a good squad of players, there are people starting regularly for us who, in my eyes, are as bad as anyone in the league in their position.

Things change quickly in football, I might look back at this in a couple of weeks and laugh, but right now I'm honestly concerned that we could go down.

 

[Igrok]

Possibly the first time for about 20 years that I've thought it's a genuine possibility. I don't think changing the manager is guaranteed to save us either. This is not a good squad of players, there are people starting regularly for us who, in my eyes, are as bad as anyone in the league in their position.

Things change quickly in football, I might look back at this in a couple of weeks and laugh, but right now I'm honestly concerned that we could go down.

All you need is to string 2-3 wins to build confidence, good manager can do it on a spin...

 

[Benedict]

Is there something wrong with that Zat one, does he think this a bloody joke or something, absolute ignorance on a scale ive never witnessed before.

 

[brieverton]

Even without relegation it is hard to see us picking ourselves up from the floor and having yet another re-boot.

We are not doomed to exist in this vicious cycle but as others have said, there are fundamental issues at the club outside of simply replacing the manager.

These false dawns are emotionally exhausting and I sense a genuine, deep fatigue amongst supporters now. A lot of us have not had enough of Everton but we have had enough of the club.

It is potentially mortally wounding this. Death by a thousand cuts. Slipping down the league and falling so far behind that in some sense relegation doesn't actually matter (of course it does) as the elite clubs operate in a different league anyway, at all levels.

It might only be for symbolic reasons, but I'd like Kenwright to stand down immediately, not that he will. Someone other than the latest guy in the dug-out has to take accountability and responsibility and Kenwright is the common thread running through 3 decades of stagnation and decline.

If this continues, we will be relegated eventually. The club will just run out of spirit.

 

[matty1878]

Largely agree the current available squad (with the injuries) is average to poor but a good manager adapts. Silva cannot adapt it's always excuses even with everyone fit there is always an excuse. The buck stops with him.

Sorry mate but city Liverpool Chelsea, etc take there entire midfield out or any of there front 3 and they would struggle

 

[witchdoc187]

We aren't getting relegated you crazy fools. This is the sort of over reaction that ended up with allardyce in charge

 

[BobbyS]

There’s too much talent in this team to be going down, they just need to be managed. The likes of Soton, Watford, Norwich, Brighton, Newcastle for starters,aren’t as good as us. We’re not bad enough to go down. Get a manager in to bring the best out of Kean, a mobile striker that is fast and has good movement. Im not Siggys biggest fan but play him as a no10 or not at all. At least he’s got a bit of creativity and can spot a pass. Siggy behind Kean, with Richy and Bernard either side. We’re lacking in the middle due to injury and haven’t got many options. Until we get players back, play deep, defend in numbers and play on the counter, with them players in the final 3rd we have it in us still to finish top half at least.

 

[Lanolin]

We aren't getting relegated you crazy fools. This is the sort of over reaction that ended up with allardyce in charge

I never felt we were in any danger that season, and said so repeatedly at the time. We'd already won pretty much every home game against mid table sides and lower before Allardyce took over, all we had to do was keep that up and we were always going to be fine.

That's not happening this year though, it's pretty difficult to pinpoint where we're likely to pick up points at the moment. Losing at home to the likes of Norwich and Sheffield United is very dangerous when your away form is as bad as ours.

 

[Toffeelover]

Largely agree the current available squad (with the injuries) is average to poor but a good manager adapts. Silva cannot adapt it's always excuses even with everyone fit there is always an excuse. The buck stops with him.

In all the after match interviews there ha always been some excuse never has he ever held his hand to admit he got it wrong.

 

[Winslow89]

Now is the moment to recall Sandro. Only he who kicks the earth into spinning on its opposite axis can save us.
You know what, why not recall psycho Mo while we're at it. At least he has some respectable Everton qualities ie. a solid death stare.

In other news, why has nobody mentioned Cahill as manager ffs?

 

[Toffeelover]

Now is the moment to recall Sandro. Only he who kicks the earth into spinning on its opposite axis can save us.
You know what, why not recall psycho Mo while we're at it. At least he has some respectable Everton qualities ie. a solid death stare.

In other news, why has nobody mentioned Cahill as manager ffs?

Has no experience.

 

[Goat]

We arent playing like a side that stinks of relegation, individual mistakes and small margins of error are our downfall currently.

In most games you can pinpoint 1 or 2 things, well normally goals, that have been the factor in our defeats.

It really is the perfect storm.

VAR, injuries to key players, mistakes, a manager with the tactical sense of a tesco carrier bag and we are deep, deep in the crap.

 

[APN_EFC]

There’s too much talent in this team to be going down, they just need to be managed. The likes of Soton, Watford, Norwich, Brighton, Newcastle for starters,aren’t as good as us. We’re not bad enough to go down. Get a manager in to bring the best out of Kean, a mobile striker that is fast and has good movement. Im not Siggys biggest fan but play him as a no10 or not at all. At least he’s got a bit of creativity and can spot a pass. Siggy behind Kean, with Richy and Bernard either side. We’re lacking in the middle due to injury and haven’t got many options. Until we get players back, play deep, defend in numbers and play on the counter, with them players in the final 3rd we have it in us still to finish top half at least.

I agree
Don't panic. We are luckily in a year of Newcastle Villa and West Ham struggling and 2 out of Southampton, Norwich and Watford will go this year. I'm sure we can scrape another 5 wins and 5 draws from the next 24 matches (wow that almost sounds difficult) . but whatever, we surely can manage that!? I think when we are in a relegation scrap players like Tosun, Davies, Mina, Coleman will all fight hard and we'll get through.