Relegation 23/24 Thread

[Bayboy]

Think Dyche will be here next summer regardless of our position at the end of the season. 1. No money to improve squad regardless of who is manager. 2. Even less money if they have to pay him off, and his team. 3. Look at the quality of applicants last time, and next time likely to be even worse given our situation.
So like him or loathe him, he's here for the foreseeable.

 

[Blue peter]

It's a tricky one. I certainly don't see the need to sack him now. However he can't survive taking 1 point from his next four league games, he has to do significantly better.

Imagine the reaction if Luton rock up to Goodison and win? Will be exactly like the Southampton game (incredible that Lampard actually survived for a further week after that result).

So would be same problem as last season, manager you sacked already used up lots of winnable home games and next one has to get team overperforming and get shock wins home and away.

That’s my main concern really, the more he loses in games where we would expect to win points, the more the pressure builds to not only win points, but win games to make up the deficit (including unexpected wins). I just hope it all beds in and we can go on a run, but I can’t recall the last time this group of players went on one.

 

[knowing your history]

For people saying mid table Palace are beating Wolves in exactly a way a mid table team does.

Already a 5 point gap to 11th.

Good result with Wolves losing anyway, they'll be bottom six all season.

 

[Runub]

Already a 5 point gap to 11th.

So win two games and we challenge for European places. I thought there was a crisis

 

[JohnRoss23]

For people saying mid table Palace are beating Wolves in exactly a way a mid table team does.

Already a 5 point gap to 11th.

Good result with Wolves losing anyway, they'll be bottom six all season.

Really hope our loss at home to Wolves doesn't come back to haunt us.

 

[MikeH72]

So win two games and we challenge for European places. I thought there was a crisis

No because it’s impossible for all the teams above us to lose as well.

 

[Runub]

No because it’s impossible for all the teams above us to lose as well.

Keep it to yourself but I was joking

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

Don't know where to put this, but I see Niels has just come off the bench to score on his Frankfurt debut.

Yet we are short all over. Yes he probably wouldn't have been good enough, but we are so short of options that it seems mad to me unless we use the money for replacements, which we haven't.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Could have done with Palace winning by more, but I’ll take it

 

[Furey1878]

Letting Iwobi go with replacement and the failure to bring in a CB, I fear, will be reasons this thread never goes too far down the page

 

[richardo675]

Similar story to last 2 seasons not beating teams around us leads of pressure to take points off the big boys, for some reason better at picking up points against top teams than bottom teams, even draws against bottom teams wudnt be too bad but keep losing them early doors

 

[Gilbert..]

For people saying mid table Palace are beating Wolves in exactly a way a mid table team does.

Already a 5 point gap to 11th.

Good result with Wolves losing anyway, they'll be bottom six all season.

Impressed with palace. Even someone as defensive as hodgson realises he has to take the handbrake off them as they have a nice group of attacking players.
Annoying when we are so dross to watch.

 

[Charles Hawtrey]

not all the press is bad.....

Encouragement for Everton?​

Everton started their season with three losses without a goal scored, a terrible start by almost any measure.
Still, Sean Dyche's side did manage to create chances across the defeats, especially in the home games against Fulham and Wolves, recording 2.7 and 1.3 expected goals (xG) respectively.
Finishing was clearly a problem area in those matches, but summer signings Beto and Arnaut Danjuma linked well as Everton finally hit the back of the net in a 2-2 draw at Sheffield United on Saturday, looking like an upgrade that had been desperately needed at the top end of the pitch for the Toffees.

Two goals scored from 7.1 xG still reads very poorly, but the new pairing provide some encouragement that opportunities might be taken, and perhaps created, at a better rate.
Everton host Arsenal and visit Brentford on return from the international break, making it tough to see immediate results, but successive Goodison Park games against Luton and Bournemouth are both candidates for attacking output.

 

[Mrbluenose]

Four league games sandwiched between two Int. breaks. Cup game too but I couldn't care less about that competition until at least the semis.

Six points is the minimum for me, seven or eight would be a very good return considering one is an Expected Defeat™.

If the best Dyche can do is something like a couple of draws, then he's done for me.

Don't want to see another sacking so soon, but we can't repeat the mistake of letting him go on too long like we did with Lampard.

 

[thorney33]

Four league games sandwiched between two Int. breaks. Cup game too but I couldn't care less about that competition until at least the semis.

Six points is the minimum for me, seven or eight would be a very good return considering one is an Expected Defeat™.

If the best Dyche can do is something like a couple of draws, then he's done for me.

Don't want to see another sacking so soon, but we can't repeat the mistake of letting him go on too long like we did with Lampard.

How is it Dyche's fault that we spurn opportunity after opportunity and only just given him a forward to work with in Beto?