Relegation 2022/23

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I have accepted that relegation is inevitable now. I'm not even upset like I was last season. Its what we deserve as a club and you know what? As disastrous as it'll be some positives could even come from it. If relegation and a spell in the championship is what it takes to finally get rid of Moshiri, Kenwright and the vermin on the board then its a price worth paying because we'll never get better with them here. Sometimes things have to get worse for them to get better and you have to hit rock bottom in order to pick yourself up.

We'd find out who the real fans where and who was just here to watch premier league togger.

We might have a chance to actually win something for once.

There would be far less cringeworthy hipsters and members of the prawn sandwich brigade ruining every single match with their laughable behaviour.

It'll be a nightmare but there's who go through it and stick by the club will come out the stronger.
 

EFC78 said:
Forgive me for possibly taking each post too literally - but I don't think the hysteria helps.

I'm not suggesting people shouldn't be very concerned but posts writing us off feel like they are done for extra effect.

We aren't even in the bottom 3 and we have half the season left, and time left in the transfer window. I'm not trying to downplay the seriousness of the situation and am actually in shock at how we are here yet again, getting humiliated by the likes of Brighton at home but I don't see why people like to ignore the teams around us.

The teams around us are just as bad as us, if not worse. That is proven in the league table. It's also proven by the goal difference with about 4 of them. Significantly worse than ours. We look like we will struggle at the moment to get 35+ points, but that also applies to about 5 or 6 teams as well. So to just take us in isolation and claim we are the worst team or definitely getting relegated is just not helpful.

We don't have the worst form either. West Ham and Southampton have both lost their last 5 matches. We've also beaten both of them this season.
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mate we seem to get worse not improve

the players a poo. them teams have better players so to me theyl be safe no problem

there’s no fight this time there’s no spirit they’res no richy

the board have relegated us like cretins they are
 
Gwladysstreetlad said:
I have accepted that relegation is inevitable now. I'm not even upset like I was last season. Its what we deserve as a club and you know what? As disastrous as it'll be some positives could even come from it. If relegation and a spell in the championship is what it takes to finally get rid of Moshiri, Kenwright and the vermin on the board then its a price worth paying because we'll never get better with them here. Sometimes things have to get worse for them to get better and you have to hit rock bottom in order to pick yourself up.

We'd find out who the real fans where and who was just here to watch premier league togger.

We might have a chance to actually win something for once.

There would be far less cringeworthy hipsters and members of the prawn sandwich brigade ruining every single match with their laughable behaviour.

It'll be a nightmare but there's who go through it and stick by the club will come out the stronger.
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i don’t think they’ll be any positive

we will end as a club and disappear to what we was mark my words
 

its been a terrible nearly 2 years now, 20-21 tailed off badly post march, for me the drop in performance levels started there and resulted in Ancelloti going at the end of that season - the Benitez and Lampard eras have been dire really, we managed to drag ourselves over the line last season but I don't think the same fight is there this season

The cumulative effect of changing managers regularly and bad recruitment over a number of years has led to a mish mash of a squad that is low on quality and just too slow for this league, the last 2 years has seen us also lose what few 'game changers' we had who could introduce a bit of quality into our play, James, Sigurdsson, Digne, Richarlison all had the ability to provide a creative spark, I don't see anyone like that in the squad now, the vast majority of our play is (sort of) safe, slow non progressive football
 
Gwladysstreetlad said:
I disagree mate. Leeds didn't disappear. Aston Villa didn't disappear. Newcastle didn't disappear and they got relegated twice. It'll be horrible but it won't be the end.
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There’s some truth to this, possibly, but it glosses over the fact that we are building a brand new stadium - apparently with Moshiri still needing a further injection of cash to finish the job. If we go down, that will utterly torpedo the club’s finances, which are already shaky. I’m by no means an expert, but surely we’d run the risk of going bust if relegated? We’ll be a loooooong time gone if the club’s finances fall apart.
 
Gwladysstreetlad said:
You can convince yourself that the absolute worst is going to happen if you want mate and upset yourself with fictional doomsday scenarios but I'm not going to do it. The club won't go under and disappear and its just daft to pretend that it will.
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Big organisations do fail and disappear. As far as turnover goes, we’re relatively small.
 

Croker said:
There’s some truth to this, possibly, but it glosses over the fact that we are building a brand new stadium - apparently with Moshiri still needing a further injection of cash to finish the job. If we go down, that will utterly torpedo the club’s finances, which are already shaky. I’m by no means an expert, but surely we’d run the risk of going bust if relegated? We’ll be a loooooong time gone if the club’s finances fall apart.
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I never argued that it wouldn't be absolutely disastrous for us to be relegated. It 100% would be. It'll be up with the worst days in the clubs entire history and at best it would take years to undo the damage. I just don't buy into the idea that the club would disappear and go under because of it.
 
Bluestar said:
Big organisations do fail and disappear. As far as turnover goes, we’re relatively small.
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When I see actual evidence that us going under is likely I'll worry about it mate. Until then I'm going to keep dismissing it as a fictional doomsday scenario because that's what it is.
 
Croker said:
There’s some truth to this, possibly, but it glosses over the fact that we are building a brand new stadium - apparently with Moshiri still needing a further injection of cash to finish the job. If we go down, that will utterly torpedo the club’s finances, which are already shaky. I’m by no means an expert, but surely we’d run the risk of going bust if relegated? We’ll be a loooooong time gone if the club’s finances fall apart.
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I can foresee a horrible takeover scenario where club are effectively separated from stadium leaving us as tenants like Coventry
 
EFC_FRANCIS said:
They didn't have a half built completely unfunded stadium is the key difference
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I doubt Laing O'Rourke are on a 'get paid just prior to the handover' deal.
If the payments stop, after a probably short period - all the JCBs drive off the job.
BMD becomes Valencia sur la Mersey Mk II. and we play crap at Goodison the next weekend.

*This next bit may not happen*
Moshiri bails, puts the keys under mat and/or sells it back (via some accouty-wounty jiggery pokerry) to Bill for a nominal tenner.
 
We got lucky last year that there were somehow 3 worse teams than us in the league.

I think we will get the same luck this season, but sooner or later we will go down.
 

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