Ramiro Funes Mori

[Walken]

Valid points, but let's not forget that Stones handed in a transfer request around August of this year. Let's not forgot him jumping over the ball vs Burnley (maybe it was just a "mistake" or he wanted Barnley to score still wtf). Any player that hands in a transfer request even if its fueled behind by their agent is shady to me. Yes, he is very composed and talented no doubt about that. But if chelsea are willing to drop more than 40 million on such a young CB. I'm sure other rich clubs must be also having a sniff and maybe are willing to offer more.

Gareth barry as experienced and well composed as he appears on the ball is not getting any younger. He is the king of the yellow cards because his pace is close to none.

you've caused some friction here bry

 

[la saeta rubia]

I really think that opinion is way off the mark. From River at the moment, I would fancy the goalie and Carlos Sanchez, Alario is a fine player but not better than Mirallas. And I struggle to put a River player in after that. Look at Boca - Cata Diaz was clapped out two years ago and was a stalwart of the title winning team. Tevez apart, not too many set the pulse racing. The quality is poor. Argentina is a football superpower that exports too much too early.

I don't disagree that Argentina exports too much too early it's down to corrupt tv deals here and the fact we produce so many players.
But let's be honest Kranevitter would be probably the best defensive midfielder in the league if he came and I think time will tell that your comparison of Miralles and Alario is well off the mark.Vangioni or Casco are excellent attacking full backs and Mercado or Coleman????
Would you really have Mccarthy before Ponzio or Lucho González?
Listen I am not saying this is anything like Rivers greatest team but it's just that a team.
One of the reasons I disagree with another poster is also the quality of coaching is very high in Argentina all you have to do is look at the likes of Simeone,Berizzo, Bielsa, Sampaoli and Pochettino in England.But it's Gallardo not any of these who will probably replace Martino as national team boss if we lose to Brasil.

 

[Nymzee]

I don't disagree that Argentina exports too much too early it's down to corrupt tv deals here and the fact we produce so many players.
But let's be honest Kranevitter would be probably the best defensive midfielder in the league if he came and I think time will tell that your comparison of Miralles and Alario is well off the mark.Vangioni or Casco are excellent attacking full backs and Mercado or Coleman????
Would you really have Mccarthy before Ponzio or Lucho González?
Listen I am not saying this is anything like Rivers greatest team but it's just that a team.
One of the reasons I disagree with another poster is also the quality of coaching is very high in Argentina all you have to do is look at the likes of Simeone,Berizzo, Bielsa, Sampaoli and Pochettino in England.But it's Gallardo not any of these who will probably replace Martino as national team boss if we lose to Brasil.

As good a prospect as Kranevitter is I really don't think he's on the same levels as a Matic.

 

[harris78]

Valid points, but let's not forget that Stones handed in a transfer request around August of this year. Let's not forgot him jumping over the ball vs Burnley (maybe it was just a "mistake" or he wanted Barnley to score still wtf). Any player that hands in a transfer request even if its fueled behind by their agent is shady to me. Yes, he is very composed and talented no doubt about that. But if chelsea are willing to drop more than 40 million on such a young CB. I'm sure other rich clubs must be also having a sniff and maybe are willing to offer more.

Gareth barry as experienced and well composed as he appears on the ball is not getting any younger. He is the king of the yellow cards because his pace is close to none.

What with the riches of the PL's new TV deal, gone are the days when a big. big transfer fee is desperately needed by a football club, just look at us rejecting the Stones bid and West Brom with Berahino. Stones handing in a transfer request means nothing. So he wanted to go to Chelsea, so what. The lad at the time thought it would be better for his career and bank balance, no shame in that, if it was any of us in our job we would do the same and his performances since (albeit a couple of dodgy errors, remember he is still only young) suggest to me that he is not desperate to get out.

As for Barry, he has never been about pace. He reads the game so well that he very rarely gets caught out of position, he just knows where to be. Granted he is not getting any younger but as long as his performances remain at the level they are, i so no reason for him not to continue in his position.

We have the core of a very good youthful side with a little experience added into the mix. Lets not wish selling our better players to fund a rebuilding job, its not needed anymore, especially the areas you mentioned. Yes we need a new GK but historically these positions do not command as big a fee as a top class Centre Back or Striker. As for midfield we have Cleverley (who before his injury was looking a good player) to come back along with Besic (who i think will still turn into a top class player for us) Lets build on what we have got and the glory days could be right around the corner!

 

[Nymzee]

Next summer is when the mega bucks come in so I think if there was ever a time that Everton were a selling club it will most certainly stop then.

As far Barry and his... indiscipline: if you watch him often a lot of his yellow cards are sacrificial, tactical fouls for the benefit of the team.

 

[la saeta rubia]

As good a prospect as Kranevitter is I really don't think he's on the same levels as a Matic.

I will enjoy watching Matic now as its always interesting to view a new top player(to me)

 

[Nymzee]

I will enjoy watching Matic now as its always interesting to view a new top player(to me)

This season might not be the best to watch him as all Chelsea players are under-performing but when he and say Coquelin at Arsenal are playing to their normal standards they're a step up on someone like Kranevitter at the moment. One day he could end up at that level and I think he might if he's given enough opportunities at Atletico because he's really talented.

 

[when i score we riot]

Compare Funes' face to that of Slaven Bilic, it's like something out of Tolkien, an Elf versus an Orc.

 

[davids]

Big weekend for Mori. Everyone's favourite centre forward has had an upturn in form,and I'm sure Bilic has noted our weakness from crosses.

 

[argietoffee]

I don't disagree that Argentina exports too much too early it's down to corrupt tv deals here and the fact we produce so many players.
But let's be honest Kranevitter would be probably the best defensive midfielder in the league if he came and I think time will tell that your comparison of Miralles and Alario is well off the mark.Vangioni or Casco are excellent attacking full backs and Mercado or Coleman????
Would you really have Mccarthy before Ponzio or Lucho González?
Listen I am not saying this is anything like Rivers greatest team but it's just that a team.
One of the reasons I disagree with another poster is also the quality of coaching is very high in Argentina all you have to do is look at the likes of Simeone,Berizzo, Bielsa, Sampaoli and Pochettino in England.But it's Gallardo not any of these who will probably replace Martino as national team boss if we lose to Brasil.

Ponzio is a player I like and his career never really got him to where his talent should have. He is well on the wane now. McCarthy has his best 6 years to come, need to recapture his form of 2013-14 when he was imperious. Lucho was class but is no real addition now, he is passed it. Kranevitter will be a magnificent def mid in a couple of years but needs maturing first.

Young players on the way to the the top *not there yet*, old players on the way down and journeymen never going to cut it.

As we know in the premier league, money talks -- we are often the victims at Everton--and it talks even louder to leagues like the Argentine one.

Mercado is a converted centre half who plays right back. Coleman is an utter Rolls Royce compared to him. That is a really poor call - maybe you just have not seen Coleman in his full pomp. Last season injuries and poor form of team and himself affected his level. The season before he was the best right back in the league, country mile ahead of Zabaletta. No one here suggests Mercado is anything other than a water carrier compared to Zabaletta.

Vagnioni is excellent and Casco has potential to be.

River and Boca are lower mid premier league team level relying on home support. No higher.

 

[Zatara]

I think its very good to know we plucked just what we needed from Argentina.

It gives me confidence that if Martinez goes for others in South America we could be looking at more masterstrokes.

 

[zirc]

Compare Funes' face to that of Slaven Bilic, it's like something out of Tolkien, an Elf versus an Orc.

He's more of a goblin like

 

[argietoffee]

I don't disagree that Argentina exports too much too early it's down to corrupt tv deals here and the fact we produce so many players.
But let's be honest Kranevitter would be probably the best defensive midfielder in the league if he came and I think time will tell that your comparison of Miralles and Alario is well off the mark.Vangioni or Casco are excellent attacking full backs and Mercado or Coleman????
Would you really have Mccarthy before Ponzio or Lucho González?
Listen I am not saying this is anything like Rivers greatest team but it's just that a team.
One of the reasons I disagree with another poster is also the quality of coaching is very high in Argentina all you have to do is look at the likes of Simeone,Berizzo, Bielsa, Sampaoli and Pochettino in England.But it's Gallardo not any of these who will probably replace Martino as national team boss if we lose to Brasil.

I was thinking about the Alario vs Mirallas comparison. I should have tried to nail your nuts to the wall on that too. Look at their stats on wiki. Alario at this stage of his career is a poor man´s Dennis Stracqualursi - granted he has had half a really good season and looks the business but no volume of work.

Look at Kev´s record since he went to Greece and then on to Goodison. And he aint allowed take penno for us anymore either!!! Mirallas has put in a really respectable career for himself at club and international level for a bloody good international side and should still ahve three years at his peak. Alario may get to that level but may just be an above average journeyman on a really good streak. Mirallas is on a bad streak but form is temporary, class permanent.

No comparison indeed.

Just coz DirecTV and the Argentine media fawn 24/7 over Boca & River, it does not make them able to compete with the richest clubs in the world.

I said richest because clearly they are two of the biggest.

I think that is fair?

 

[BlueToff]

Big weekend for Mori. Everyone's favourite centre forward has had an upturn in form,and I'm sure Bilic has noted our weakness from crosses.

Errr... if you're on about Carroll, he was dreadful last week...

 

[Nymzee]

Errr... if you're on about Carroll, he was dreadful last week...

I think coming off the bench to score a header constitutes good form now.

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