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Never saw that part. Fair enough. Tasteless joke. You'd still rather focus on attacking him than the muslims who spat at our soldiers in the same town. In fact about 5 minutes round the corner from where he is there. Whatever you think of TR, he has many valid points.

And whatever you think of the edl (and myviewpoints arnt exactly positive as I believe the way some of them behave to be detrimental to stuff getting talked about) the majority of the violence and threats of violence are against them rather than by them. Any valid criticism of islam is met with it, its extremely cult like in this way.
 
Never saw that part. Fair enough. Tasteless joke. You'd still rather focus on attacking him than the muslims who spat at our soldiers in the same town. In fact about 5 minutes round the corner from where he is there. Whatever you think of TR, he has many valid points.

And whatever you think of the edl (and myviewpoints arnt exactly positive as I believe the way some of them behave to be detrimental to stuff getting talked about) the majority of the violence and threats of violence are against them rather than by them. Any valid criticism of islam is met with it, its extremely cult like in this way.

Out of interest, do you have any figures for violent crimes committed in the UK by muslims vs those commited by non muslims?

I don't mean just high profile terrorist attacks, but violent crime overall. I'm pretty sure that you have mentioned that Islam is not a religion of peace a few times, so I would expect that the figures would support your views? Be interested to see them.
 
Never saw that part. Fair enough. Tasteless joke. You'd still rather focus on attacking him than the muslims who spat at our soldiers in the same town. In fact about 5 minutes round the corner from where he is there. Whatever you think of TR, he has many valid points.

And whatever you think of the edl (and myviewpoints arnt exactly positive as I believe the way some of them behave to be detrimental to stuff getting talked about) the majority of the violence and threats of violence are against them rather than by them. Any valid criticism of islam is met with it, its extremely cult like in this way.

There is plenty of valid criticism of Islam and I think the fact there's been no reformation in Islam unlike Christianity and Judaism is an interesting topic. There is also undoubtedly a discussion to be had about social cohesion, although its wider than just with reference to Muslims.

Remarks like "(paedophilia)" is endemic in the Muslim community" and "Islam is the root cause of (paedophilia)" and "they won't/don't want to integrate" when most of them manage it perfectly well but are invisible for that very reason and in fact discussing the "muslim community" like its a homogenous entity whose members are somehow responsible for the actions of other people who share the same religion isn't it. That's just inflammatory rubbish, bordering on hate-speech.

As for the guys that abused the homecoming soldiers, they were a few loons, who were chased off by other Muslims the next time they attempted similar, and as for TR, most of his "valid points" come from very dubious sources like Pamela Gellar or are just outright lies and his amateur hermeneutics when discussing the Quran are risible. He gets schooled time and time again yet his supporters always claim victory.
 
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Never saw that part. Fair enough. Tasteless joke. You'd still rather focus on attacking him than the muslims who spat at our soldiers in the same town. In fact about 5 minutes round the corner from where he is there. Whatever you think of TR, he has many valid points.

And whatever you think of the edl (and myviewpoints arnt exactly positive as I believe the way some of them behave to be detrimental to stuff getting talked about) the majority of the violence and threats of violence are against them rather than by them. Any valid criticism of islam is met with it, its extremely cult like in this way.

I'm worried about you, Nik. You're ripe for the picking by the EDL. You're showing all the signs. Don't get taken in, Nik. Don't fall for it.
 

There is plenty of valid criticism of Islam and I think the fact there's been no reformation in Islam unlike Christianity and Judaism is an interesting topic. There is also undoubtedly a discussion to be had about social cohesion, although its wider than just with reference to Muslims.

Remarks like "(paedophilia)" is endemic in the Muslim community" and "Islam is the root cause of (paedophilia)" and "they won't/don't want to integrate" when most of them manage it perfectly well but are invisible for that very reason and in fact discussing the "muslim community" like its a homogenous entity whose members are somehow responsible for the actions of other people who share the same religion isn't it. That's just inflammatory rubbish, bordering on hate-speech.

Well said.
 
Never saw that part. Fair enough. Tasteless joke. You'd still rather focus on attacking him than the muslims who spat at our soldiers in the same town. In fact about 5 minutes round the corner from where he is there. Whatever you think of TR, he has many valid points.

And whatever you think of the edl (and myviewpoints arnt exactly positive as I believe the way some of them behave to be detrimental to stuff getting talked about) the majority of the violence and threats of violence are against them rather than by them. Any valid criticism of islam is met with it, its extremely cult like in this way.

This is actually true. The same went for the anti-facist league at the NF rallies. They were much more violent than the NF and basically were liberal thugs looking for a scrap.
(I was not a member of either).
 
This is actually true. The same went for the anti-facist league at the NF rallies. They were much more violent than the NF and basically were liberal thugs looking for a scrap.
(I was not a member of either).

Aye, left wing violence and right wing violence both look pretty much the same when all's said and done. Silly macho bootboys looking for a "cause" to give them some spurious justification for their violence.
 
Aye, left wing violence and right wing violence both look pretty much the same when all's said and done. Silly macho bootboys looking for a "cause" to give them some spurious justification for their violence.
very well said and the real reason behind 95% of "religious war" that and greed
 

Here's an interesting fact for you (sorry Groucho) some historians believe *England has already had a muslim ruler. His name was King Offa and he was the ruler of Mercia (central England) in the 8th century where he allegedly converted to Islam.
*The nation of England did not exist at the time
 
Thanks for that. Strange how religion integrated into Finance.

Actually mate finance was started by religion, the first bankers as such were the Knights Templar, the modern banking system came from Italian families used by the Vatican, the bible tells you that money lenders traded in temples.......................religion strikes again
 

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