2021/22 Rafael Benitez

[bluesb1970]

Why is the bar so low for him?

The bar is so low for him because of the stadium. Moshiri had to get someone in to keep us from relegation to keep the financiers happy.

 

[Legend78]

I want a manager who tells this spineless squad of cowards when they aren’t performing. If it upsets a few and they leave so be it.

And am pretty sure this was taken into account during all those interviews he had... the culture needed to change and that’s why he was brought in..

 

[Kev The Rat]

We looked favourites to go down under Silva and Koeman. Players had completely given up. Had we carried on it looked highly likely we would have been relegated. At the moment it’s just not the same scenario. We’re in mid table.

We look a bigger mess now than under either of those

Imo

 

[MikeH72]

We look a bigger mess that under either of those

Imo

The Koeman season was worse, that side had absolutely no quality in it. Niasse was our top scorer from open play with 8 that season. When we went 2-0 down at home to Watford under Unsworth I honestly thought we were down.

 

[welshtoffee]

Why is the bar so low for him?

His body is not really toned for jumping over bars, at the most he could probably manage 6"

 

[Kev The Rat]

The Koeman season was worse, that side had absolutely no quality in it. Niasse was our top scorer from open play with 8 that season. When we went 2-0 down at home to Watford under Unsworth I honestly thought we were down.

In terms of recent results it was actually better

 

[MikeH72]

I’m terms of recent results it was actually better

Yeah but if we hadn’t sacked Koeman in October it wouldn’t have been. There was a bit of a pick up in results under Unsworth and Allardyce, under Koeman we had clocked off.

 

[Bluesnapper1878]

6 years of Moshiri decline, that's why

What about the previous highly successful near 30 years under Boys Pen Bill?

 

[Kev The Rat]

Yeah but if we hadn’t sacked Koeman in October it wouldn’t have been. There was a bit of a pick up in results under Unsworth and Allardyce, under Koeman we had clocked off.

I’m talking about results even up until Koeman was sacked, forget about Allardyce

 

[Kev The Rat]

What about the previous highly successful near 30 years under Boys Pen Bill?

Bill can claim he didnt have the funds at least

Not sure how Moshiri defends himself - the stadium I suppose

 

[John from Bootle]

We looked favourites to go down under Silva and Koeman. Players had completely given up. Had we carried on it looked highly likely we would have been relegated. At the moment it’s just not the same scenario. We’re in mid table.

Yeah, we've taken 4 points from the last three games. Silva and Koeman could have bought themselves more time with a similar set of results after bad runs. But alas, they just stayed in freefall. Both were into their second season also.

 

[MikeH72]

I’m talking about results even up until Koeman was sacked, forget about Allardyce

2-2 at home to Apollon Limassol was one of the worst results in our history.

 

[Kev The Rat]

2-2 at home to Apollon Limassol was one of the worst results in our history.

You can carry on about individual results if you like but we had 8 points from 9 games when he was sacked.

Now we’ve 19 from 17 which is actually worse because it’s the same level of bad over a much longer period.

 

[MikeH72]

You can carry on about individual results if you like but we had 8 points from 9 games when he was sacked.

Now we’ve 19 from 17 which is actually worse because it’s the same level of bad over a much longer period.

But if Koeman had been kept on and we were picking up points at the same rate then we’d actually be on 16 points from 17 games which is less than we have now???

 

[Saint Domingo]

We look a bigger mess now than under either of those

Imo

We really don’t. They’d had 18 months, three transfer windows, and everything was getting worse and worse whilst we were in the bottom 3.

Benitez has been here a few months, the majority of the players aren’t his, and we’re not in the bottom 3.

How are these positions similar?