R.I.P. EFCNIK (no, he's not really dead ffs)

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I hope not myself. There are some very interesting, informative debates on here that approach topics from varying angles. The General Election thread is a good example. The place would be pretty boring without diversity IMO. There's right wing views though and then there's Nik, who I don't doubt is probably a nice guy to talk to on a personal level in person, but who just became a caricature of himself. You knew exactly what he would write before he wrote it when certain topics were being discussed. I'm all for freedom of speech and defend his right to hold any views that he wants but not to constantly spew hate filled bileous nonsense on order to push his anti-Islamic agenda.

Those threads aren't interesting though are they? They're people sticking to their guns and whoever shouts the loudest wins. Interesting would suggest anyone ever changes their mind, which I don't think has ever happened.
 

Well if you hijacked dozens of threads that had little to do with that subject, repeatedly, and after many warnings, then maybe.
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Haven't posted in them for nearly a fortnight now. What's the point?

There's a sliding scale where the more obscure the issue the more likely you are to see actual exchange of views. So on stuff that nobody knows that much about, views can actually shift based on new information or arguments (I've changed my mind on some stuff on here) but when it comes to intrenched principles, not so much.
 
There's a sliding scale where the more obscure the issue the more likely you are to see actual exchange of views. So on stuff that nobody knows that much about, views can actually shift based on new information or arguments (I've changed my mind on some stuff on here) but when it comes to intrenched principles, not so much.
I disagree.
 

Those threads aren't interesting though are they? They're people sticking to their guns and whoever shouts the loudest wins. Interesting would suggest anyone ever changes their mind, which I don't think has ever happened.
So you're not a Socialist then? I thought The Esk had converted you? Maybe you don't neccessarily have to change people's minds in order to be interesting. For me I enjoy learning why people hold the views that they do and looking at some of their intellectual ammunition in order to be able to, at least partially, better understand them. You for example, you seem to be a pretty nice, intelligent, well read man, and I enjoy some of your rationale. I can see you hold your views not from ignorance but from knowledge. Even though I'm not someone who espouses right wing views I like to try to understand both sides of a debate. Even if it doesn't alter the position I take within the debate I still feel it enables me to understand, not just the reasoning why I believe what I do, but also the reasoning behind the other side of the argument.
 

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