Putting flags on lampposts

[Gwladysstreetlad]

I’m not going to reason with bigoted morons. Why should I? They need to be called out for the racist simpletons they are.

Are they all bigoted morons? Or just some of them? Because if they're all that and are basically irredeemable in your eyes then what do you suggest? Leave things as they are and let more and more people go towards their view? Personally I'd sooner reason with the more logical ones and even tell the ones on the fence that they aren't irredeemablely bad. The majority of reform voters are silent ones who will never tell you who they voted for. If we go around saying that, all these people are irredeemable then they'll just keep quietly voting the same way to get "revenge". Personally I'd have real discourse and win the silent majority around.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Our politicians need to start toning down the rhetoric and lead by example. Once the likes of Fararge is the only one name-calling it will be easier to show him up for what he is. The media have an obligation to provide factual news rather then hysterical nonsense like labelling "judges enemies of the people". Even if someone is gorssly misinformed and basically an idiot, you aren't going to win him/her over by telling them. A change it tone when it comes to these conversations will go a long way.

I don't dispute that we do need politicians to revert to simply telling the truth, it's just hard to see how that works in an age where most of us get news in very bite-sized chunks, and soundbites tend to not only land more but transmit more widely when they're negative and play on our base fears. I mean the mainstream media aren't perfect in any way, but they're already derided by a portion of society for not delivering the "truth" they find on social media. It does feel a bit like the tail is wagging the dog in terms of the misinformed guiding policy.

 

[Cecil]

Are they all bigoted morons? Or just some of them? Because if they're all that and are basically irredeemable in your eyes then what do you suggest? Leave things as they are and let more and more people go towards their view? Personally I'd sooner reason with the more logical ones and even tell the ones on the fence that they aren't irredeemablely bad. The majority of reform voters are silent ones who will never tell you who they voted for. If we go around saying that, all these people are irredeemable then they'll just keep quietly voting the same way to get "revenge". Personally I'd have real discourse and win the silent majority around.

Yes. You don’t have to be a racist to be stupid but you sure have to be stupid to be racist.

In all seriousness though, what has any of this flag shagging achieved, where was this level of anger during the Tories dreadfulness? What’s logical about supporting Reform?

You can try and reason with them, good on you for giving it a go, but they’re all beyond redemption and when Reform inevitably get in and all their dreams come crashing down I will laugh at them and tell them I told them so.

 

[Bryan+]

Looking at the reform projections for the next election, it’s gonna be a landslide if what I am seeing is even remotely accurate

 

[Cecil]

Looking at the reform projections for the next election, it’s gonna be a landslide if what I am seeing is even remotely accurate

My only hope is that they completely implode on themselves before the next election.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Looking at the reform projections for the next election, it’s gonna be a landslide if what I am seeing is even remotely accurate

They were talking themselves up for taking Wales recently, and it didn't happen, a tory under a reform badge is still a tory, so they'll get fed this lesson again in Scotland.