Blues Harp
Player Valuation: £60m
And as long as it takes to give the scummy rs their tinpot trophy
Project restart discussion.
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jaycee
Player Valuation: £60m
As much as I dislike the rs,I dont think they are the driving force behind this,the rs infected media yes,its more to do with £££,the money being lost is the sole reason,nothing to do with the integrity of the game,thats long gone
Gwladysstreetlad
Player Valuation: £50m
I'm going to ask the club for a refund on my 20/ 21 season ticket. The whole sport has disgraced itself in my eyes with this farce. By playing the remaining 19/20 games in the conditions they are planning to they have delegitimized the sport as a whole. How am I supposed to just go back after this is over and pretend that everything is alright and ignore the fact that both the games authorities and the clubs (including us) where happy to put lives at risk all for games of football and money? If this is football in 2020 then I want no part of it.
Jamalio Danubio DiCanio
Player Valuation: £1m
Good luck with that.
Football is massive business that needs money to survive. That's why 20 out of 20 clubs are going along with Project Restart. Ethically and morally we all have valid reasons up to not restart the season (or start any new season or have a transfer window etc..). In the end though each club in the league will be very aware of the need to survive and for the Premier league to survive to serve their own needs. It's why 20 out of 20 clubs will vote to re-start now, and therefore also have the possibility of a 2020/21 season starting in autumn. They'll all put money (and their business' long term health) ahead of any health concerns. Our club and it's hierarchy are as equally to blame for this as any club in the league.
Football is a business. It's voted like a business scared of it's financial future. It is what it is. It's hardly surprising. As a fan you either choose to walk away from it and accept that you don't want to be a part of this same business going forward or you take your medicine and accept that this is the way it is. We all need to have a long hard think about this in the cold light of day.
I'm genuinely thinking of walking away from it all. I think the talk of Project Restart devaluing football etc.. is just bluster to hide the fact that most of us are genuinely fearing who is going to win the league this season if the league restarts. That's fine. It's a defence mechanism many of us have used previously. For me it's the ethical considerations of starting again now that grate and really sit uneasily with me. I don't blame 1 single club for this, it's all 20 clubs who are complicit in this decision to restart the league in the current environment. Thats why I'm genuinely thinking of spewing it going forward and investing my time, efforts and resources into something more worthwhile.
Anyone got any good ideas for a new hobby?
Arteta10
Player Valuation: £10m
I thought this myself a few weeks ago BUT never underestimate the stupidity of the voting masses
They'll say that it's because they can guarantee the safety of players to the best of their ability due to the rigorous testing system the Premier League have in place.
However, it's a glib answer when you consider that the testing capacity could be better used elsewhere and other parts of the pyramid aren't receiving it.
In reality, the PL has power and influence and they're exercising it to their own financial advantage. The gravy train keeps on riding...
mccole
Player Valuation: £35m
No problem with the full contact element because I want football to return however I want it to return when it is safe to do so.
If they are planning 26/27 June, which should be a final and definite date, they have to issues final health guarantee and guidelines so they need to have a number on how many people getting ill is enough.
The government guidelines say if you are in contact with someone with positive test then you have to self isolate for 7 days so will the squad because a case in Serie A today
https://www.pagineromaniste.com/bologna-caso-sospetto-coronavirus/
They have had enough time and the delaying of further setback will impact football and it's shockwave of finances, contracts and future of clubs is at risk.
If they are planning 26/27 June, which should be a final and definite date, they have to issues final health guarantee and guidelines so they need to have a number on how many people getting ill is enough.
The government guidelines say if you are in contact with someone with positive test then you have to self isolate for 7 days so will the squad because a case in Serie A today
https://www.pagineromaniste.com/bologna-caso-sospetto-coronavirus/
They have had enough time and the delaying of further setback will impact football and it's shockwave of finances, contracts and future of clubs is at risk.
Gwladysstreetlad
Player Valuation: £50m
So anyone who belives that the integrity of the game will be destroyed because of behind closed doors games in a soulless empty venues with frightened players who have been basically threatened into playing is only doing so because of the RS winning the league?! LMFAO, the hubris is unreal!
My decision has absolutely nothing to do with that lot. I've hated the direction that football has been going in for years and years now. Its blatantly corrupt to the core. This latest pantomime is merely the final straw.
I know that my money won't be missed by either the league or the club. Somebody else will get my seat within mins of it going on sale but I'll feel better knowing that I'm not contributing to a sport that is fine with risking the lives of its players, managers, staff and supporters.
Exactly this. You only have to look at the situation in Scotland or the lower leagues to see they aren't doing this to "raise the morale of the nation"
Where is this for the Tranmeres of this world? If it was just about football then all leagues would be finished only when it is totally safe to do so (with fans in the stadium) or a line would be drawn under the season. I find it very unfair that Tranmere are relegated but Charlton get to fight on despite them both being a similar number of points from safety and only one league between them.
Money talks unfortunately.
mccole
Player Valuation: £35m
"But it is yet to be explained who else would need to isolate if a player tests positive and had been training with several of their team-mates. It is likely to come down to the type of contact and length of contact with that person, using GPS trackers to determine this.
Social distancing will still need to be maintained off the field, and players and staff will have to actively opt-in to agree to the strict requirements - but also the added risks - that come with entering this next phase." - BBC
Tomorrow they have another meeting and hopefully they start being responsible and set a deadline because I think FA, UEFA and EFL are beginning to pressure the Premier League.
Social distancing will still need to be maintained off the field, and players and staff will have to actively opt-in to agree to the strict requirements - but also the added risks - that come with entering this next phase." - BBC
Tomorrow they have another meeting and hopefully they start being responsible and set a deadline because I think FA, UEFA and EFL are beginning to pressure the Premier League.
All training sessions recorded.
mccole
Player Valuation: £35m
Imagine a world where your every move is filmed and sent to the authorities for inspection, your temperature is checked every day, you require ID to be allowed access to your workplace and you can’t talk to fellow employees in groups.
This is lockdown life at Premier League training grounds in 2020… and it involves more hand sanitiser gel than you ever thought imaginable.
Each club must adhere to strict rules and regulations to give themselves every possible chance of keeping their training grounds coronavirus-free. With players and staff all undergoing regular tests and items like footballs, goalposts and cones disinfected after every session in a military-style operation, training grounds are arguably some of the safest places in the country. Personal hygiene needs to be meticulous and work surfaces must be pristine.
The Athletic has seen a 40-page policy document which lists in detail what clubs can and can’t do. Rules range from the closure of changing rooms and showers to the prohibition of spitting (a few footballers might struggle with that one).
One of the most important aspects is coronavirus testing, which takes place twice a week. The process takes around five minutes — players and staff drive into a pop-up testing station, have their ID checked and then have a swab inserted, first towards the back of the mouth and then in the lower nasal passage. This is said to be the least invasive of the COVID-19 swab tests and does not compare to the uncomfortable deep nasal swabs that some may have seen in videos.
At Wolverhampton Wanderers, each player also fills in a brief questionnaire on an app before they arrive at the training ground. The questions are basic (i.e. “Have you or anyone in your family developed symptoms?”) and, once they have been completed, every player has his temperature checked by a security guard.
At all clubs, players must drive to their designated car parking spot, with spaces kept far apart. They must arrive in their training kit with their own football and towel.
Indoor areas are allowed to be open but just for basic requirements like going to the toilet. As well as the showers and changing rooms being closed, clubs can’t use ice baths, cryotherapy chambers or the canteen.
They are encouraged to implement one-way systems, the kind seen in many supermarkets, to navigate through buildings. At Wolves, for example, players walk into the academy building where, on the indoor pitch, each player has an individual station complete with a crate of drinks and hand sanitiser. They then walk in single file, via the one-way system, out towards the training pitch, via a medical desk where they check in and report any issues, or highlight any strappings they have which may need changing.
The Premier League has stipulated that all training sessions be filmed and sent to them upon request, as well as GPS data and performance data.
For the past week, training has been conducted in small groups of no more than five and is overseen by three staff members apiece. One Premier League club’s groups have been spread out over two pitches, including one goalkeeper-only group. Drills have included…
- Passing in small circles, with one player in the middle taking the ball, spinning and passing back to a team-mate
- Shooting practice, dribbling the ball from the halfway line, past a couple of mannequins and into a small goal
- Running or sprinting while holding a medicine ball above their head, or heading and jumping while wearing restrictive bands around their legs
- Reaction drills, with a coach shouting “jump” and the player instead having to sprint, or the coach shouting “left” and the player having to dart to the right
From tomorrow, training can progress to full group sessions — when players will be able to “engage in tackling while minimising any unnecessary close contact” — after a unanimous vote was passed by Premier League clubs.
At the end of the session, players must head straight to their cars where, as one Premier League staff member put it, the scene resembles a car park next to a Sunday league pitch, with players sat with the door open swapping their boots for trainers and throwing all their gear into their car boots.
Food and drink can be picked up from a designated area. Wolves have been leaving individualised food packages by each player’s car, such as the usual post-session essentials like protein bars.
Meanwhile, equipment and GPS units are left in allocated areas. Everything must be disinfected by staff, including corner flags, goalposts, cones, gloves and boots.
Simple things like laundry or any disposable waste must all be carefully managed. One club asks players to put their dirty laundry from the previous day’s session into a big pile on arrival. They then pick up their next day’s kit on the way out. Another club asks that tissues are placed in a plastic bag. When that bag is full, it must be placed inside a second bin bag and tied… and then that bag needs to be left in a secure place and marked for storage until 72 hours have passed.
Players at all clubs have been sent guidelines and advice on how to adhere to the rules. To simplify matters, Wolves produced a three-minute video, sent to each player on WhatsApp, which takes a journey from the entrance to the training ground, following where exactly they are allowed to go and what they have to do each day. Everyone at the club has also been sent an aerial map showing where they can and can’t go. Only people who have been tested are allowed in certain areas while the non-tested staff (such as media personnel and photographers) have red hatched-off no-go areas.
On top of all that, clubs have basic hygiene regulations, including the 20-second hand-washing rule, sneezing/coughing into their sleeve and avoiding touching their face.
And to check everyone is abiding by the rules, the Premier League has started sending staff to inspect training grounds and observe sessions.
(Photo: Wolverhampton Wanderers FC/Getty Images)
TippEverton
Player Valuation: £35m
Training sessions recorded for the premier league, I'd imagine any footage showing indiscretions will be deleted fairly sharpish.
It'll definitely re start bit I'm not even sure I'll watch our games, the behind closed doors scenario doesn't appeal at all.
It'll definitely re start bit I'm not even sure I'll watch our games, the behind closed doors scenario doesn't appeal at all.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Liverpool and United regrettably couldn’t install recording equipment in their training grounds so have received special dispensations.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
I think it will restart but equally think that training arrangements were never the barrier to restarting. Clubs will want to be assured that they won’t be relegated on the basis they lost home advantage that their rivals had earlier in the season. That will be the biggest stumbling block remaining.
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