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davek said:
Improvement: home form, work rate.
Stagnation: same old bottling attitude from players when any sort of expectation is demanded.
Regression: our away form and players other than Lukaku consistently finding the net.

It's a mixed bag.
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The only improvements have been home form and work rate?

When Calvert Lewin scored against Hull, we had 15 different goal scorers in the premier league. More than any other club. Since then Jagielka and Pennington have scored, taking it to 17. So your last point is kind of wrong.

You also don't mention, less goals conceded, young players being given an opportunity, higher league position, european football etc etc.
 

balggy said:
The only improvements have been home form and work rate?

When Calvert Lewin scored against Hull, we had 15 different goal scorers in the premier league. More than any other club. Since then Jagielka and Pennington have scored, taking it to 17. So your last point is kind of wrong.

You also don't mention, less goals conceded, young players being given an opportunity, higher league position, european football etc etc.
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Great. That's good to know that we can rely on one or to goals from 16 other players next season. That'll stand us in good stead to progress 'again'.

It's a weakness - a clear weakness - that we have no players on 7/8/9 goals this season. And at least two of them.

That is a weakness: that imbalance.
 
davek said:
Great. That's good to know that we can rely on one or to goals from 16 other players next season. That'll stand us in good stead to progress 'again'.

It's a weakness - a clear weakness - that we have no players on 7/8/9 goals this season. And at least two of them.

That is a weakness: that imbalance.
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It's a imbalance which has spanned both the current and the previous manager, one had 6 transfer windows the other 2 so far without remedying it. We have all our eggs in the Lukaku basket, which when the team plays really well looks no problem at all, but when a team stops the service to him - he's as useless as a chocolate pudding. Neither manager has brought in players who can contribute goals, or who can 'consistently' provide a creative outlet for us, the oft used phrase of stop Lukaku - stop Everton - is more accurately 'stop Barkley' stop Everton Dave.

Whilst Coleman was on form - Barkley became VERY hard to stop, without Coleman in the side - it's become bordering on simple.

Without Schneiderlin esepcially now - we have basically no players bar Davies who can pass a ball decently - and trying to ask a kid whose probably played more than he should have this season already to carry that weight is daft/

In short we need to do one of two thigns, bring in a whole revamp of the forward positions around Lukaku etc to get the best out of him whilst chipping in with some themselves, or more likely - completely rebuild are attacking lineup, making it not reliant on one player
 
We are basically two different teams home and away. Drives me mad.
This season has been much improved from the abysmal last year of the Martinez reign, but that is comparing to a very low base. There is still plenty of room for improvement and I'm sure that Koeman will feel the same. I hope the board gives him whatever is needed to take the squad to the next level over the summer.
 
davek said:
Great. That's good to know that we can rely on one or to goals from 16 other players next season. That'll stand us in good stead to progress 'again'.

It's a weakness - a clear weakness - that we have no players on 7/8/9 goals this season. And at least two of them.

That is a weakness: that imbalance.
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It's certainly a worry when you see this list.

 

bluestevon said:
It's a imbalance which has spanned both the current and the previous manager, one had 6 transfer windows the other 2 so far without remedying it. We have all our eggs in the Lukaku basket, which when the team plays really well looks no problem at all, but when a team stops the service to him - he's as useless as a chocolate pudding. Neither manager has brought in players who can contribute goals, or who can 'consistently' provide a creative outlet for us, the oft used phrase of stop Lukaku - stop Everton - is more accurately 'stop Barkley' stop Everton Dave.
Whilst Coleman was on form - Barkley became VERY hard to stop, without Coleman in the side - it's become bordering on simple. Without Schneiderlin esepcially now - we have basically no players bar Davies who can pass a ball decently - and trying to ask a kid whose probably played more than he should have this season already to carry that weight is daft/

In short we need to do one of two thigns, bring in a whole revamp of the forward positions around Lukaku etc to get the best out of him whilst chipping in with some themselves, or more likely - completely rebuild are attacking lineup, making it not reliant on one player
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Right there you've hit on an imbalance all of his own making. That imbalance between creative players and grafters. He's got that badly out of whack. Clipping Barkley's wings and moving Deulofeu out was shooting his own foot in that respect.

As far as the imbalance between our scorers is concerned: OFM bought Lukaku (not a bad thing scoring wise, I think you'll agree!) and had Mirallas and Barkley chipping in with good tallies. I dont see any similarity to what went on under him and the way things are now.


He;s made us more solid and tough to beat. But we are - outside of handing a battering to some poor teams at Goodison - a pretty uninspired team.

His task next season - given he hasn't fancied the flair players he inherited - is to bring in his own and break us out of this rut we're in of relying on a talisman striker.
 

Add to the fact we had no cup runs whereas next season you'd hope we'd go further plus euro games. We played the least amount of games of any other side in the league this season so should have been sharper and not as tired as the rest
 
tommye said:
How's this progressing then?
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If we had qualified for europe with 50 points I would have said we hadn't but seeing as we got over 60 then it is clear we made progress. The away performances have shown we still have a long way to go and we have a massive summer ahead but we would all have taken this at the start of the season.
 
Bit of a weird one for us atm. Looks like 2 talismans in Lukaku and Barkley are off (although I feel many will be happy to see the back of them), we are back in Europe (hopefully), no one is sure how we are being run yet, we have a good young spine but we are still same old Everton at times and we hopefully have a new stadium on the way.

More of an observation than a point but with us in the weirdest position we've been in for a while...where do we go from here?
 

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