6 + 2 Point Deductions

[stony]

Time will tell, but I do not think they have the balls to make such a huge decision to the dominant force in English football at the moment

It's not testicles they lack, it's evidence. All they have is the same nonsense CAS threw out.

 

[John from Bootle]

It's not testicles they lack, it's evidence. All they have is the same nonsense CAS threw out.

You only got off on a technicality didn't you?

In fact, the judgment recites, the AC found that ADUG had funded the payments, and that: “The management of [MCFC] was well aware that the payments … made by [a third party on behalf of ADUG] were made as equity funding, not as payments for the sponsor on account of genuine sponsorship liabilities.”

The Cas panel of three European lawyers decided by a majority 2-1, however, that it would not consider the legitimacy of those Etisalat payments, because they were made more than five years before the CFCB charges were brought in May 2019, so were “time-barred”

 

[hallamblue]

It’s incredibly messy and (a bit like VAR) it’s not what anyone wants, fans just want to believe in what they’re seeing not have outcomes messed about with.

From a legal perspective it also raises the question of whether holding the appeal after the outcome of the season is known is prejudicial to the appeal. The stakes and effect of the appeal decision shouldn’t enter into consideration but in reality would it?

“Luton fans think they’ve stayed up so it would be unfair to reduce Everton’s sanction and now relegate them instead” isn’t a consideration the appeal board should make but in reality, you can see how it easily could.

For the sake of EVERY club involved they need to find a way to resolve it all and let the football decide.

As I've said before they need to do it like Spain, register all contracts and transfers with the league who then tell them what they can spend on transfers and wages. If they go over that they can't register the players.

 

[EFC_FRANCIS]

It's not been leaked out, some lad on Talksport most of us had never heard of us thinks we might be, and has got the attention he was after.

Swiss Ramble seems to agree with him. And the esk disagrees. Make of that what you will

 

[Tony’s Carp]

As I've said before they need to do it like Spain, register all contracts and transfers with the league who then tell them what they can spend on transfers and wages. If they go over that they can't register the players.

Yup exactly. They can and should be monitoring this in real time and it prevents teams and fans being punished for mistakes made years ago by people who have left the clubs in question.

If you want to manage overspend, prevent it, don’t punish it.

 

[GS Blue - LIVERPOOL FAN]

It was a very important issue when the 6 attempted to ruin football... it was fired out from all angles.. we had a man owning the club who was a billionaire accountant who made a dogs dinner out of our finances, the rules need to punish reckless owners not the fans..

That ESL stuff was a disgrace, I agree.

However, it ended up being theoretical as everyone rejected the idea, including the fans of the teams responsible, and it ultimately came to nothing but a fantasy of money grabbing capitalist business owners. The circumstances are different.

Saying that football fans shouldn't be punished because their team is affected by actions of those that run the club is also the stuff of fantasy though. We all love the game and our team, and the passion football brings out is wonderful, but you're deluded if you think supporters shouldn't be impacted by the highs and lows of supporting their club. That's football.

What next? It's not fair if supporters are affected by their team being relegated due to hiring a crap manager and buying rubbish players? Punish the owner, it was his fault! It's nonsense.

 

[hallamblue]

Yup exactly. They can and should be monitoring this in real time and it prevents teams and fans being punished for mistakes made years ago by people who have left the clubs in question.

If you want to manage overspend, prevent it, don’t punish it.

We'd still be in financial trouble but it wouldn't manifest itself in points deductions. We'd just not register Dele,, Holgate etc but we'd still have to pay them.

 

[kenada_blue]

If City are found guilty they will be relegated and criminal procedings will follow. I'm honestly not sure why some of you think we are part of the cartel. We are very much on the outside and their main target.

They won't. The guy on Talksport that the media has spun as saying if found guilty they'll be "relegated" miss the part when he said...they can't really prove anything.

He was one of City's financial advisors bluntly saying it'll be hard to prove a thing. So it won't be about the allegations being true, it'll be about making it stick. Which the PL won't be able to do

 

[hallamblue]

They won't. The guy on Talksport that the media has spun as saying if found guilty they'll be "relegated" miss the part when he said...they can't really prove anything.

He was one of City's financial advisors bluntly saying it'll be hard to prove a thing. So it won't be about the allegations being true, it'll be about making it stick. Which the PL won't be able to do

They need a whistleblower, but would you trust the Premier League to protect you?

 

[matty1878]

Swiss Ramble seems to agree with him. And the esk disagrees. Make of that what you will

about wha mate?

 

[pfim]

That ESL stuff was a disgrace, I agree.

However, it ended up being theoretical as everyone rejected the idea, including the fans of the teams responsible, and it ultimately came to nothing but a fantasy of money grabbing capitalist business owners. The circumstances are different.

Saying that football fans shouldn't be punished because their team is affected by actions of those that run the club is also the stuff of fantasy though. We all love the game and our team, and the passion football brings out is wonderful, but you're deluded if you think supporters shouldn't be impacted by the highs and lows of supporting their club. That's football.

What next? It's not fair if supporters are affected by their team being relegated due to hiring a crap manager and buying rubbish players? Punish the owner, it was his fault! It's nonsense.

Remove the owner's ability to louse it up.

The English clubs joining the ESL was monumentally stupid. They already have the superior product with the superior revenues.

 

[canuckblue]

It reeks in here.

 

[John from Bootle]

What next? It's not fair if supporters are affected by their team being relegated due to hiring a crap manager and buying rubbish players? Punish the owner, it was his fault! It's nonsense.

No, that's not next. Nobody ever has, nor ever will make that argument. Stop talking crap.

 

[Ring master]

about wha mate?

Nothing, why people keep saying we are in trouble for next season based on someone assuming accounts on twitter, i dont know. When there is still 6months of the 23/24 year to go. If we are - we can easily sort it by selling, if needed

 

[Goat]

Nothing, why people keep saying we are in trouble for next season based on someone assuming accounts on twitter, i dont know. When there is still 6months of the 23/24 year to go. If we are - we can easily sort it by selling, if needed

Yeah but if we need to sell before 1st July we are gonna get our pants pulled down on the price.