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BernieH said:
Get a grip, what of wanting the best available for Everton( the best, a man who has lost more games in this year than Silva lol) and I'm the one who needs to get a grip. Ok mate :Blink:

Sorry If I think our Club should be able to attract a manager who has won exactly nothing in his career. Jesus,how we have fallen.
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We have fallen. Ask anyone and I mean anyone outside our club where they rate everton as a club. The team. Manager. They will tell you were are similiar to teams like wolves. Southampton. West ham. Even though we like to remember our history we currently are the level of the teams I mentioned.
 
Krs said:
get a grip lad, this club is on its arse hasn’t won anything for two decades, the board is as much to blame for all this. Everton football club is sadly toxic from top to bottom, why would a top, top manager like Poch even turn his head to us? We have more chance of doing a Villa and going down, only that likes of Southampton Watford Norwich are all worse than us that’s the saving grace. We are going to end up with Moyes till the end of the season to plug the gap and then hopefully in the summer a manager with a bit more about him than moyes and silva is lined up. That’s half the battle with this club aswell, sections of the support live in dream world.
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I agree with your sentiment except Poch is not a top top manager. He won nothing, top top managers are winners
 
BernieH said:
May as well just give up then, how can we say the board has no ambition when the fans don't even think we can attract a manager who has nothing on a cv. It is pointless then.
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You're confusing ambition (or a lack of) with realism: I would love to have Pochettino and I sincerely hope we do our best to get him, but I am far, far from confident.

You see a manager with nothing on his CV, whereas most fans (especially non-Evertonians) will see a manager held in high regard and relatively well-proven.

He's transformed a Spurs side, on a stringent budget until last season, into a team that competed at the top of the domestic and European competitions.

Yes, he hasn't tasted silverware but he's been awfully close, so I suspect he will want to challenge and win things, at home and abroad, with a top club.

Man United talked about him before Olé and like I said I suspect the likes of Bayern will be looking at him, therefore I doubt that he would genuinely consider us.

The unfortunate and hard-hitting truth (realism here) is that we are currently not in the bracket of clubs that he would expect to manage, and aren't even close.

Ambition is all well and good, but the issue is that our wishes and desires (no matter how much we flatter him) are probably not going to be enough!

That's why we've ended up with dross like Koeman, Sam and Silva (he's won stuff!) rather than the managers we truly want and need - it's crap, but it's true.
 
Krs said:
I’m only 28 mate I can’t even remember the 95 final mate I was 4 years of age, same goes for many the lads I watch these overpaid pricks with. ‘How we have fallen’ fallen from what? Because my whole life watching Everton has been failure and disappointment and that’s all I know. I can understand fellas who saw the good days in the 80s, but apart from that the club has won the Fa Cup and Charity sheild since 1990, that’s 30 years nearly, cut the excuses been plenty opportunities to win a domestic cup, the club hasn’t fell from nothing during my time on earth, always has been ‘what if’ or ‘maybe’ ran club. The fans deserve better, but be realistic about it here, Everton are not a top 8 side anymore, we have not been a top 6 side consistently for god knows how many years? Until the whole place has a reality check and top to bottom is wiped out this will continue.
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I feel for your generation mate, genuinely, you are right, at least ive seen pots raised.
 

PhilM said:
You're confusing ambition (or a lack of) with realism: I would love to have Pochettino and I sincerely hope we do our best to get him, but I am far, far from confident.

You see a manager with nothing on his CV, whereas most fans (especially non-Evertonians) will see a manager held in high regard and relatively well-proven.

He's transformed a Spurs side, on a stringent budget until last season, into a team that competed at the top of the domestic and European competitions.

Yes, he hasn't tasted silverware but he's been awfully close, so I suspect he will want to challenge and win things, at home and abroad, with a top club.

Man United talked about him before Olé and like I said I suspect the likes of Bayern will be looking at him, therefore I doubt that he would genuinely consider us.

The unfortunate and hard-hitting truth (realism here) is that we are currently not in the bracket of clubs that he would expect to manage, and aren't even close.

Ambition is all well and good, but the issue is that our wishes and desires (no matter how much we flatter him) are probably not going to be enough!

That's why we've ended up with dross like Koeman, Sam and Silva (he's won stuff!) rather than the managers we truly want and need - it's crap, but it's true.
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Times have changed when being classed as a top manager gir not winning anything. The champions league effect, all of a sudden 4th n a lost final are deemed successful, thats without actually taking into account the blokes last 12months, where with a much better squad has lost more games than silva, why do people not recognise this fact.
 
BernieH said:
Times have changed when being classed as a top manager gir not winning anything. The champions league effect, all of a sudden 4th n a lost final are deemed successful, thats without actually taking into account the blokes last 12months, where with a much better squad has lost more games than silva, why do people not recognise this fact.
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Ignoring the League Cup this season, Spurs have lost four league games this season, whereas we've lost seven. Are we talking calendar year or here and now?

In the Champions League, Spurs have played four games and won two of them, drawing one and losing another. That's still not more games lost than ourselves.

Last season, they won twenty-three and lost thirteen (finishing 4th), whereas we finished eighth with fifteen wins and fourteen loses. Again, more loses?

Last year, we both went out in the FA Cup 4th round, but they got into the semi-final of the League Cup whereas we went out in the third round (more wins).

They reached the Champions League final too with a record of P6 W2, D2, L2 in the group stages and a record of P7, W4, L3 in the final rounds.

So, the only fact I recognise is that they finished higher, won more, received more points and went to a semi-final domestically and final in the CL.
 
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Look at Poch's transfers - they stink. Nearly as bad as Koeman's but Poch got lucky one time
when he signed Son. Below is the BBC take:

Spurs have also had two bids for Saido Berahino rejected by West Brom, who say the 22-year-old will not be sold.

Tottenham manager Mauricio Pochettino has likened his club's pursuit of Berahino to a frustrated love affair and the signing of Son could now see them end their interest in the England Under-21 international.

Poch got lucky at Spurs and ultimately failed. He's right at the back of the class with Silva....
 

royvernon39 said:
Look at Poch's transfers - they stink. Nearly as bad as Koeman's but Poch got lucky one time
when he signed Son. Below is the BBC take:

Spurs have also had two bids for Saido Berahino rejected by West Brom, who say the 22-year-old will not be sold.

Tottenham manager Mauricio Pochettino has likened his club's pursuit of Berahino to a frustrated love affair and the signing of Son could now see them end their interest in the England Under-21 international.

Poch got lucky at Spurs and ultimately failed. He's right at the back of the class with Silva....
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did he get lucky at Southampton too ?

anyway his probably off to Bayern anyway
 
If the club has any ambition they will get him in ASAP as united will be after a new manager soon.

Get him in and slap any contract and demands he wants on the table in front of him to get the deal done.
 

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