PL place target for the rest of the season

Where do we need to finish for the season now to be acceptable?

  • 17th to 14th (surviving with other relegation candidates)

    Votes: 9 1.9%

  • 13th (where we are now)

    Votes: 9 1.9%

  • 12th to 8th (the range of the place bump we got under the caretaker)

    Votes: 272 57.1%

  • Top 7 (last season's level)

    Votes: 186 39.1%
  • Total voters
    476
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catcherintherye said:
Lets have it right, if Fat lad has the equivalent record for the remainder of the season (1.4 points per game) we get 34 points, which would get us to a total of 49 points. There's every chance we could finish 7h with that. That will be described as miraculous by some for Allardyce, yet disastrous for Unsworth. Odd, especially when you consider Allardyce will have a bundle to spend in January plus the return of McCarthy, Bolasie, Barkley, Mori & Coleman.
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He’s averaged 1.2 points per game as a manager with a 34% Win rate. So not only is he corrupt the guy is a bang average Premier league manager. After some knee jerk panicking from the board and a lot of this site, we’re unfortunately stuck with him. The best thing we can do is let him sign the bare basics that we need player wise and then sack him in the summer. Everton have had enough average managers in the last 30 years without wasting any more time on another one.
 
In my opinion this season is the same as any other season - not acceptable unless we win a trophy and improve in the league from the previous season.
 

Top 10 would be great considering the start we have had, however when you consider that we are currently 9 points below 7th place which is basically 3 wins, it isn't inconceivable for 7th being a target amazingly. Very tough that of course but possible nonetheless. Lets see what you are made of Sam. :)
 
jceverton said:
Defence is a major problem and won’t be sorted until we’ve signed a couple of centre halves.
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Yeah, that's my point. How do you tactic your way around that? Unless you want to turn Besic into a CB, play him and Holgate alongside Keane, and high press the living daylight out of everyone and play balls from the back 50 yards forward into playmakers all game - i.e., what Fonseca teams like to do, there's not a lot of options. And yes, that would be a complete disaster, although I'd love to see the next coach play that type of system.

AT LEAST he should be able to change up the way we defend set pieces and drill the daylight out of the team. Our guys cannot man mark anyone. That much is certain. We are also hapless trying to finish Gylfi's ridiculously good delivery.

Seriously, if that guy EVER played with a Cahill/Big Dunc, hell, even a Benteke, I swear he'd get 10 assists a season off set pieces. It's amazing how perfect some of the delivery is. We just happen to be the ONLY team in the entire league without at least the option of a target guy. And don't give me DCL.
 
CRIMHEAD said:
Yeah, that's my point. How do you tactic your way around that? Unless you want to turn Besic into a CB, play him and Holgate alongside Keane, and high press the living daylight out of everyone and play balls from the back 50 yards forward into playmakers all game - i.e., what Fonseca teams like to do, there's not a lot of options. And yes, that would be a complete disaster, although I'd love to see the next coach play that type of system.

AT LEAST he should be able to change up the way we defend set pieces and drill the daylight out of the team. Our guys cannot man mark anyone. That much is certain. We are also hapless trying to finish Gylfi's ridiculously good delivery.

Seriously, if that guy EVER played with a Cahill/Big Dunc, hell, even a Benteke, I swear he'd get 10 assists a season off set pieces. It's amazing how perfect some of the delivery is. We just happen to be the ONLY team in the entire league without at least the option of a target guy. And don't give me DCL.
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He is not drilling the hell out of anyone until we get to the New Year and have a week between fixtures. With regard to the current centre backs I agree with you that’s their is just not any great options.
 

BlueToff said:
Honestly mate, I have got into plenty of debates on here because overly, I like to be positive. Can't be arsed with people losing their heads.

I really don't think I'm doing so, though.

We are really bad at the moment. We played half-decent last night and let's hope it's not a false start. But we're very much in the mire and won't be out of it until we start to string together a run of unbeaten games.

Had we conceded last night I doubt we win that game. That's how poor we are.

Pickford came up with the goods and we had a slice of luck and moment of magic from Rooney to knock the stuffing out of them.
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If you think back to Martinez's first season we played better but actually were quite open defensively and would outscore opponents, or they would just squander chances. I definitely recall thinking that about our matches towards the end of the season (bar the Arsenal game). You make your own luck with hard work, and funnily enough, when we've actually been positive and grafted, we get something out the game. I know we are crap and doing the basics wrong- hence stocky Sam being employed by the club. For once though a bit of belief in the team and encouragement may work wonders. It has to- there's not much left bar Sams defensive drilling. For me, I've reached rock bottom and I've ran out of negativity. Doesn't help that these night shifts are from hell!!
 
Be almost impossible to catch the new "Sky Six" and Burnley and Watford are starting to pull away too. Ninth, from where we were pre-West Ham, I would accept now.
 
Well all you bed wetters surely just want anything above the bottom 3? I mean that's why you wanted Sam.... Even tho we weren't in it and two wins from the ten is how it is and could of Been without him.
 
CRIMHEAD said:
AT LEAST he should be able to change up the way we defend set pieces and drill the daylight out of the team. Our guys cannot man mark anyone. That much is certain. We are also hapless trying to finish Gylfi's ridiculously good delivery.

Seriously, if that guy EVER played with a Cahill/Big Dunc, hell, even a Benteke, I swear he'd get 10 assists a season off set pieces. It's amazing how perfect some of the delivery is. We just happen to be the ONLY team in the entire league without at least the option of a target guy. And don't give me DCL.
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Would love to see Benteke here in Jan - NEA. It would be meltdown of course - Big Sam takes Everton back to the Stone Age with Ben Ten!!! But it's just a fact that world class heading of the football is a beautiful sight to behold, particularly if you've got an artist like Gylfi swinging it in.
 

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