Pienaar

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sheedyicomeinpeace said:
I think we paid at the very top end for Bily and its a deal I suspect could do with further examination one day. The Yak got a serious injury which no-one could factor in and the issue with both him and Cahill the relatively 'massive' wages for players of their age and years left on their contracts would mean the prices naturally fall its the nature of the business.

On pienaar i've said before that I think from a business sense the whole transfer saga is awful however it makes perfect footballing sense. The issue as I see it with your plan is we'd have to have convinced Spurs to loan and also have told Pienaar we actually didn't want to sign him any more and loan him when othr clubs were prepared to sign him and hope his 'love' for the club would bring him back under those circumstances and frankly i'd see that as unlikely. Then we'd also pay a 'small ' loan fee, most of which similar fees for players of his standard are around a £1m whilst hoping Spurs would drop £3.5m from his fee in 12 months. To be honest that all sounds a bit hopeful to me
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True. He's so key to the way that we play and we'd be unlikely to get someone with the same impact for £4.5m, so all we could really do is plead poverty and try to keep the price down. Pienaar insisting that he only wanted to come to us, his age and the fact that he wasn't in AVB's plans helped, but Spurs know how important he is to us and there were other suitors waiting in the wings. I think Moyes wanted to get this deal done as a priority so that, if there was anything left in the transfer kitty or wage bill it would give him enough time to try and bring one or two more in. All in all it's a fair deal.
 

dixie7 said:
we sold him for 3m when he was 28 and now buy him back for 4.5m thats not great business. he is a great player at the moment but so was cahill at that age, who would ever have predicted cahill would get that bad so quickly

Best option was to loan him for another year pay a small fee to loan him and then sign him for around 1m when he was 31.

we used to be one of the best clubs around for doing transfer deals especially selling players for double sometimes triple for what they are worth, recentlyu there have been some stunners

bily cost 9.6m sold for 5m
yak bought for 12.25m sold for 1,5m
cahill sold for just 1m even at 32 he is worth more then that and we know it
and now pienaar sold for 3m bnought back for 4.5m
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Cahill could never trap a ball and Always gave the ball away more Than most in the team. His strength was his timing, arriving late in the box. We pushed him to far up the pitch and defenders learnt to deal with him, this is why he wasn't as effective.
 
the sniderman said:
hey knucklehead what do you care?? these good people know youre a Red Sox fan masquerading as a blue. ill give you the opportunity to come straight punk or ill super kitt you without mercy.
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You ain't super Kitting no-one lad. He was right in what he said.
 
Sold for £3m got back for a supposed £4.5m well that makes perfect sense. He was coming to the end of his contract with us so was less than what he was worth, we have paid £1.5m more however we would have paid him that in wages during 12 months and also dont forget he had an injury at Spurs too so maybe the same would have happened to us. I am made up welcome home Peanut "God is Great!"
 

Good to have you back, Steven. Our best player, IMO.

Now we need a right winger, and a right back.

Donovan and some young scamp if Coleman isn't given a shot there. Someone will have to leave first though.
 
Artetafan said:
I live in hope that Naismith and Coleman will be played there and come good. Certainly there's potential there.
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Definitely is, and I think we all know deep down Barkley will get played on the right flank not attacking mid, I was thinking more for depths sake. Nev shouldn't be near the starting line up and Ossie is class behind the striker but awful on the flanks.
 

CahillsCornerFlag said:
Definitely is, and I think we all know deep down Barkley will get played on the right flank not attacking mid, I was thinking more for depths sake. Nev shouldn't be near the starting line up and Ossie is class behind the striker but awful on the flanks.
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Coleman is our great white hope for RB, sure enough. Hibbert and Neville are just too limited for first choice, as good a pair of servants as they've been but I'd be reluctant to buy anyone else until young Seamus has had a proper run out there. I still think he's got enough. And an attacking right back like him will make any wide player who likes to cut inside look ten times better when playing in front of him.

Though, I agree that Osman has proved beyond all doubt that he's just not a winger and that the Rm is our big problem position. If we want to do well either one of our many other players who aren't right wingers but have been asked play there like Barkley, Rodwell, Gueye or Naismith makes that position their own or we buy someone in, Donovan seems to be the main choice there but I dunno, I think I'd rather see that money spent on a back up for Baines if I'm honest. We'd be up **** creek if he injures himself.
 

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