Phil Neville

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"Full of confidence", my arse.

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Phil Neville makes controversial Liverpool claim that Everton fans will HATE

The city of Liverpool stops when the two old rivals clash but Neville believes Everton put too much focus on the games.
Speaking to brother Gary on Sky Sports' Soccerbox show, Neville claims the build-up to a Merseyside derby would start up to five days out before the game.

While at his old club Manchester United, they wouldn't discuss playing their arch enemy City until 48 hours prior.
As he watched footage of Everton's 3-0 win over Liverpool in 2006, a year after Neville joined the club, he said: "I hated Merseyside derbies, I really did. I thought they were overhyped.

"I think a Manchester derby, we used to talk about from 48 hours before. Merseyside derbies were a week before.

"The masseur would put up on the wall 'five more sleeps'. The next day 'four more sleeps', the next day 'three more sleeps until the Merseyside derby'. It was the biggest game.

"We used to go into derby days full of confidence thinking we could compete but Liverpool always used to play the game.

"We got too involved in trying to smash someone early on, fans saying you've got to die for the badge. It was the only game Everton wanted to win."

Phil Neville has also admitted he felt like the 'teacher's pet' at Everton.
Neville went on to reveal the specific instruction that David Moyes used to give his players ahead of the matches - and it concerned Kop legend Jamie Carragher.
"It's a tight tunnel at Goodison Park. All you can here in the tight tunnel is Jamie Carragher, in his squeaky Scouse accent, shouting 'come on lads'," Neville continued.

"Every game we played against Liverpool, David Moyes would say 'don't let Jamie Carragher ref the game'."
Neville's record of derbies was far from great. He was twice sent off while playing for Everton against Liverpool - but at least enjoyed playing at home more.
"It was a better atmosphere at Goodison Park it was tighter," he said.
"The fans were closer to the pitch - although they had a brilliant record at Goodison Park."

Neville had earlier lifted the lid on his dressing room troubles after signing for Everton.
Neville was made Toffees captain by boss David Moyes after joining in a £3million deal in 2005.

He had spent the last 15 years at Manchester United, picking up six Premier League titles, three FA Cups and the Champions League.
But it was a different story at Goodison Park where he felt 'the teacher's pet' after being made skipper.

"They [the fans] hadn't accepted me because after one month David Moyes made me captain," he told Sky Sports.

"At the time I accepted it but, looking back, I shouldn't have done.
"I should have got my feet under the table and waited six months but he wanted it done and he wanted it done straight away.
"I found it really tough as I wasn't accepted by my team-mates. I was the teacher's pet, I was Moyes' little boy."
Our record in Derbies is awful.

He might have a point

(Loves a good point Phil)
 
"It's the only game Everton wanted to win" yet we only won about 3 derbies in 10+ years under moyes

What a terrible small club mentality that is
To be fair you have to go back a long way to when we were competitive on a regular basis.
Taken from an earlier 2016 thread.



Post War Everton Managers by Derby Record

All these manages had at least 5 derbies, I'm discounting those like Dave Watson who only managed in 1.

Win %.

Royle: 40%
Catterick: 32%
Kendall: 26%
Harvey: 20%
Lee: 17%
Moyes: 16%
Britton: 14%
Smith: 12.5%
Bingham: 0%
Martinez: 0%

Loss %

Harvey: 60%
Britton: 57%
Moyes: 52%
Smith: 50%
Kendall: 45%
Bingham: 43%
Catterick: 40%
Lee: 33%
Martinez: 33%
Royle: 0%

Bring back Royle!
 
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To be fair you have to go back a long way to when we were competitive on a regular basis.
Taken from an earlier 2016 thread.



Post War Everton Managers by Derby Record

All these manages had at least 5 derbies, I'm discounting those like Dave Watson who only managed in 1.

Win %.

Royle: 40%
Catterick: 32%
Kendall: 26%
Harvey: 20%
Lee: 17%
Moyes: 16%
Britton: 14%
Smith: 12.5%
Bingham: 0%
Martinez: 0%

Loss %

Harvey: 60%
Britton: 57%
Moyes: 52%
Smith: 50%
Kendall: 45%
Bingham: 43%
Catterick: 40%
Lee: 33%
Martinez: 33%
Royle: 0%

Bring back Royle!
There's still hope. Atletico Madrid used to win one in 10 years against Real.
 

To be fair you have to go back a long way to when we were competitive on a regular basis.
Taken from an earlier 2016 thread.



Post War Everton Managers by Derby Record

All these manages had at least 5 derbies, I'm discounting those like Dave Watson who only managed in 1.

Win %.

Royle: 40%
Catterick: 32%
Kendall: 26%
Harvey: 20%
Lee: 17%
Moyes: 16%
Britton: 14%
Smith: 12.5%
Bingham: 0%
Martinez: 0%

Loss %

Harvey: 60%
Britton: 57%
Moyes: 52%
Smith: 50%
Kendall: 45%
Bingham: 43%
Catterick: 40%
Lee: 33%
Martinez: 33%
Royle: 0%

Bring back Royle!

In fairness given the disparity in resources between the sides during Moyes’ tenure (Everton operating a sell to loan policy at times, Liverpool spending themselves into administration) his % loss stat is pretty good. To only lose half the games he played against a side that had been in 2 CL finals and were guaranteed top 4 before a ball was kicked was ok going. He also saw them off over a 2 legged cup tie (something that has felt a mile away under Martinez Koeman and Allardyce) as well as finishing ahead of them 3 out of 11 seasons. He’d have a win at Anfield as well if Tim Howard wasn’t Tim Howard. I’ve always thought he’s judged harshly on the few games like the one he played a second string in and Gerrard got a hat trick. I’d argue that after the very first Goodison derby of Martinez’s reign every one after that were up there with the worst derby performances in our prem history.
 
I'm sorry but 3 wins in 10 year's isn't good regardless of how much Liverpool spent
We spent the majority of that 10 years as a very decent side. There was a good fee games we drew/lost which we could have easily won if we had more bottle
 
To be fair you have to go back a long way to when we were competitive on a regular basis.
Taken from an earlier 2016 thread.



Post War Everton Managers by Derby Record

All these manages had at least 5 derbies, I'm discounting those like Dave Watson who only managed in 1.

Win %.

Royle: 40%
Catterick: 32%
Kendall: 26%
Harvey: 20%
Lee: 17%
Moyes: 16%
Britton: 14%
Smith: 12.5%
Bingham: 0%
Martinez: 0%

Loss %

Harvey: 60%
Britton: 57%
Moyes: 52%
Smith: 50%
Kendall: 45%
Bingham: 43%
Catterick: 40%
Lee: 33%
Martinez: 33%
Royle: 0%

Bring back Royle!

Big Joe would have had them proper wound up and I mean proper, who would have fancied meeting him in the tunnel if you hadn't have given 100% plus that was our 'Dogs of war' period, even now if you get right into the RS from the start you give yerself a chance.
 
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Hate [Poor language removed] ex players who have to make snide comments or say things without regard to supporters. He's disrespectful now that he can wear his utd colours openly.
 
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Says it all
 

He just confirm a loud rumour of being a Teachers pet.

Hate him and Moyes even more after this confession. Blatant favourtism regardless of benefit of the team is the biggest sin in football.
 

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