Nothing has changed.

[4737carlin]

Given the fact that we very nearly covered our net spend expenditure and balanced the books with potential sales of Niasse and Barkley.

I put it to you all, out of all the signings we made this window which ones would we not have been able to accomplish before under Kenwright?

Yeah but we potentialy could of thrown 45m at Palace for Benteke, or to someone else for another striker if we had shifted those 2 wasters, but truth is we had a decent net spend and didnt balance the books.

Agree with your point about under Kenwright, despite what people want to think towards the end we did have decent windows under him, but there is a lot more going on at Everton now that under Kenwright I dont think would of happened.

 

[Joey66]

We are up shoite creek without the proverbial paddle

I did worry if we sold lukaku and Barkley our most stand out players we may struggle this season - early days, but no proven goal scorer why pay 45 million for a playmaker when we have no goal threat?
DCL is a boost, but is still learning he needed a striker to learn off - no one came in yesterday its a concern to put it mildly!

 

[devogue]

Given the fact that we very nearly covered our net spend expenditure and balanced the books with potential sales of Niasse and Barkley.

I put it to you all, out of all the signings we made this window which ones would we not have been able to accomplish before under Kenwright?

What was our record signing under Kenwright? Lukaku? We have payed more than what we did for Lukaku, 3 times under Moshiri. Can you imagine spending 45 million on one player a few years ago.

 

[davids]

I'm not stressed, just bored of tedious posters.

So what your really saying is you can't think of one striker who would get even close to Lukaku's goal scoring record that we could afford or who would come,but it's easier to blame the board.

 

[Efcjake]

I am stumped to think of one, Jake.

Says it all doesn't it.

I said about a month and a half ago the exact same thing. Don't get me wrong, I think we've signed some good players but I just don't think they're a level of quality above what we could have reasonably expected to attract here before Moshiri came.

The fact that I like our other signings is why I can't be completely fuming about this window. The business we did, was alright.

But it feels like a Kenwright window because it obviously isn't sufficient to improve us and improving us is what Moshiri was supposedly brought in to help us accomplish.

 

[blue61]

I did worry if we sold lukaku and Barkley our most stand out players we may struggle this season - early days, but no proven goal scorer why pay 45 million for a playmaker when we have no goal threat?
DCL is a boost, but is still learning he needed a striker to learn off - no one came in yesterday its a concern to put it mildly!

DCL has Rooney to learn off, as long as he's not teaching him to drive.

 

[Khalekan]

Says it all doesn't it.

I said about a month and a half ago the exact same thing. Don't get me wrong, I think we've signed some good players but I just don't think they're a level of quality above what we could have reasonably expected to attract here before Moshiri came.

The fact that I like our other signings is why I can't be completely fuming about this window. The business we did, was alright.

But it feels like a Kenwright window because it obviously isn't sufficient to improve us and improving us is what Moshiri was supposedly brought in to help us accomplish.

I love when Davek refers to Moshiri as "the poorest billionaire in the world" lol

 

[Khalekan]

DCL has Rooney to learn off, as long as he's not teaching him to drive.

lol

 

[Efcjake]

What was our record signing under Kenwright? Lukaku? We have payed more than what we did for Lukaku, 3 times under Moshiri. Can you imagine spending 45 million on one player a few years ago.

First of all that's a pointless comparison. Imagine someone saying to people whinging during the Kenwright or Johnson years that we're really doing brilliant because we broke transfer records that were set by Moores.

Secondly, two of those three deals you mention us breaking our record for are based on add-ons that haven't been paid out. The last of those deals saw us pay over the odds after Swansea realized how desperate we were and the Neymar deal blew everything out of the water.

Take the size of the figure away and what we've done is spent half of Lukaku's value on one player. Could I imagine spending 45 million on one player a few years ago? No, probably not but I never expected us to stump up 28 million for Lukaku. When you look at it, the price increase for our record signing isn't growing disproportionately.

We spent 15 million on Felliani in 2008.

6 years later we spent nearly twice as much on Lukaku in 2014 for 28 million. In 6 years then our transfer record grew by 200%.

3 years later we spend 45 million on Sigurdsson. In 3 years our transfer record grew about 150%.

Proportionately we're increasing our transfer record had the same rate of increase as we were doing before Moshiri. It is a bigger figure, but when you compare it to the last increase in transfer record it really isn't that out of line and could have reasonably been expected from us.

 

[marsh]

Not much has changed

 

[Efcjake]

Yeah but we potentialy could of thrown 45m at Palace for Benteke, or to someone else for another striker if we had shifted those 2 wasters, but truth is we had a decent net spend and didnt balance the books.

Agree with your point about under Kenwright, despite what people want to think towards the end we did have decent windows under him, but there is a lot more going on at Everton now that under Kenwright I dont think would of happened.

We could have potentially done that but isn't it strange how many rumors of loans were being thrown around while we had no real links to buying anyone to play up front for weeks?

I see your second point, I think the biggest thing Moshiri did was write off that debt to allow us to explore funding options for a new stadium which was going to be practically impossible to secure before he came here but before a spade goes in the ground he hasn't had much effect on the playing staff.

 

[Efcjake]

I love when Davek refers to Moshiri as "the poorest billionaire in the world" lol

I never wanted to believe him and wanted to believe in the tide of change but it became fairly obvious what the reality was.

 

[blarger]

Bit crap this striker situation. Got three players to provide all the ammunition and no one great to fire it.

 

[Baines' left foot]

I'm apologising for nobody.Just pointing out the obvious fact that which ever player you want there are many hurdles to cross before you get them (if at all) Barkley to Chelsea, Sanchez to City,Lemar to Arsenal.....do you see a pattern developing? And as for Hernandez...Koeman was looking for a target man.Llorente surprising as it might seem to you chose Spurs while knocking back Chelsea (but we must have had a chance in your mind ...obviously) Batshuayi was going nowhere while Costa plays games and Llorente chose Spurs and Benteke...do you think Palace are looking to get relegated before Christmas?

There's more than 1 day in the transfer window.

I'm fairly sure I we'd gone in for Llorente a week or two ago he'd have come here. He'd have been the main man instead of being on Spur's bench. So yes, I do think we'd have had a good chance.

We knew about Lukaku leaving for at least 6 months and did nothing about it. You can't defend that. We could have got any of those players if we'd wanted them badly enough, but we didn't.

 

[mahermi1]

Given the fact that we very nearly covered our net spend expenditure and balanced the books with potential sales of Niasse and Barkley.

I put it to you all, out of all the signings we made this window which ones would we not have been able to accomplish before under Kenwright?

See where your coming from, but under Kenwright Lukaku would definitely have to have been sold first, before anyone was brought in. Plus our business done under Bill was mostly done at the end of the window and with 9 signings there's a good chance a couple of them would have failed the medical.