Not Safe For Work! NOMARK NOMEDALS NOLAN

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LETS FORGET THE FACT THAT HE APPARENTLY ISN'T THAT TYPE OF PLAYER, AS WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY JUST ABOUT EVERYONE THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE GAME.

HE IS EXACTLY THAT KIND OF PLAYER.

HE IS A LOWDOWN SHOITEHOUSE WHO SHOULD SIT ON THE SIDELINES 'TIL VIC IS FIT TO PLAY AGAIN. HE SHOULD BE VILLIFIED IN EVERY NEWSPAPER IN THE LAND & ON EVERY TALKSHOW AND INTERNET FORUM THAT THERE IS.

I'VE MADE THIS A NSFW THREAD AS I EXPECT THE LANGUAGE TO BE WHAT IS REFFERED TO AS INDUSTRIAL.
 

I'm not a violent person. But if I saw that bent fingered inbred walking down the street I would kick his legs until they bent at funny angles.

I will take great pleasure in seeing him and the rest of his crackhead team mates get relegated this season.
 
As I said in the match thread at the time - I don't understand why that "tackle" doesn't count as a criminal offence. It was premeditated, unprovoked, violent and dangerous.

Compare to Taylor's tackle on Rodwell, which was aggressive and mistimed, but was a genuine football tackle i.e. the football at least was involved.

Medical science treats these injuries so well that we just assume that Vic will be back to 100% in 6 months and it will be like the injury never happened. But you can never be quite sure with these things, and it's entirely possible that Nolan has ended his career, or at least lowered his potential substancially. OK, he was never going to be Henry, but being Emile Heskey Mk 2 was/is within his range - I know that sounds like a put down, but there's a place in most squads for a player like that, including the current England squad.

Footballers get arrested all the time, for stuff outside nightclubs etc. In nearly all of those, the footballer suffers far more provocation, is far less aggressive and far less dangerous; the "victim" is rarely defenceless, seeing as he probably started it anyway. These are considered crimes - rightly so by the courts, as you can't give anybody a free pass, but also by the tabloids, who will make the player's life hell for 6 months.

Meanwhile the likes of Nolan get away scot free. At least he actually got a red card; half the time in these cases the ref gives a yellow and nobody can do anything afterwards because "it has already been dealt with".
 
Nolan should be banned for the length of time Victor is injured, eye for an eye and all that.
 

As I said in the match thread at the time - I don't understand why that "tackle" doesn't count as a criminal offence. It was premeditated, unprovoked, violent and dangerous.

Compare to Taylor's tackle on Rodwell, which was aggressive and mistimed, but was a genuine football tackle i.e. the football at least was involved.

Medical science treats these injuries so well that we just assume that Vic will be back to 100% in 6 months and it will be like the injury never happened. But you can never be quite sure with these things, and it's entirely possible that Nolan has ended his career, or at least lowered his potential substancially. OK, he was never going to be Henry, but being Emile Heskey Mk 2 was/is within his range - I know that sounds like a put down, but there's a place in most squads for a player like that, including the current England squad.

Footballers get arrested all the time, for stuff outside nightclubs etc. In nearly all of those, the footballer suffers far more provocation, is far less aggressive and far less dangerous; the "victim" is rarely defenceless, seeing as he probably started it anyway. These are considered crimes - rightly so by the courts, as you can't give anybody a free pass, but also by the tabloids, who will make the player's life hell for 6 months.

Meanwhile the likes of Nolan get away scot free. At least he actually got a red card; half the time in these cases the ref gives a yellow and nobody can do anything afterwards because "it has already been dealt with".

It would be interesting to note quite what the difference is between this and Ferguson's attack on McStay in Scotland that sent him away for a few months.
 
Nolan should be banned for the length of time Victor is injured, eye for an eye and all that.

Would Nolan have gone to prison if that tackle happened up in Scotland. Big Dunc went down for gbh but Nolan caused Anichebe bodily harm and he meant it just asmuch as Dunc's incident with Paul McStay. The only difference was the ball was available to win for Nolan where Dunc did'nt have that excuse.
 

I can see we are all upset in here, but that's the game.

Ive tackled badly before. I stamped on this ****** last year and got sent (first time ever) Massive rush of blood. I wont condone it. Ive been tackled badly before.

If it was one of our players on one of theirs, would we want to seriously criminally punish our own?

Get over it, the Cheeb is Championship at best anyway.
 
He's scouse.

Theres far worse going down on most local pitches by ours on a Sunday.

He apologised to Anichebe in the tunnel. Lets move on villify someone else.

KenWRONG.



And with you on the Victor Championship comment brother.
 
He's scouse.

Theres far worse going down on most local pitches by ours on a Sunday.

He apologised to Anichebe in the tunnel. Lets move on villify someone else.

KenWRONG.



And with you on the Victor Championship comment brother.

Can we villify Steven Taylor please? No reason...Just don't like the bloke. :P
 
Ive tackled badly before. I stamped on this ****** last year and got sent (first time ever) Massive rush of blood. I wont condone it. Ive been tackled badly before.

Obviously I wasn't there, so I don't want to accuse you of anything unfairly i.e. how dangerous your stamp really was.

However, hypothetically say you are on street outside of a club. In full view of a passing policeman, you stamp on a defenceless guy, with such force and aggression that a major injury (one that could take him out of the workforce for 6-12 months) was not only possible, but likely.

Now say you did the same aggresive stamp on a football pitch.

Do you think these 2 should to treated as entirely different events?

If it was one of our players on one of theirs, would we want to seriously criminally punish our own?

Hardly the point is it? I wouldn't want one of our players to be locked up no matter what they did. But if one of them got done for fraud or something, and got jail time, they'd rightly go down.

And this isn't about taking it out on any opponent who causes an injury. Like I said, the Taylor tackle was bad, but it was a genuine football tackle. When you go onto the pitch, you accept you might get injured by an aggressive opponent who mistimes a tackle - that's just part of the game. That doesn't mean you have to accept somebody just running at you and stamping on your leg, just because a ball full of air is somewhere within a 10 yard radius.


To whoever suggested banning offenders for the length of the victim's injury: it's a terrible idea, wouldn't work. Injuries aren't automatically related to how bad the tackle is. With this system, you'd get some horrendous tackles that get a 3 match ban (because the victim god lucky), and some just mistimed tackles that result in a 2 year+ ban.

What happens if you just trip a player, he falls awkwardly on his head and breaks his neck? What happens if a player suffers an average injury (say a broken toe), but before he comes back to action, he suffers a recurrence (i.e. it's the same injury, and he was never fit, but he made his recovery longer by trying to rush back)? What happens if (say) Ronaldo injures a crap Liverpool youngster. Wouldn't Liverpool try to claim the youngster is still injured, even when he's actually fit? What happens if the ref at the time ruled the tackle as fair, but replays show it's actually not? What happens in the opposite case? What happens if the victim was 38 years old, and suffers an injury that would take 18 months to recover from, so he just retires? Could we tell James Vaughan to stand by Gareth Barry for 90 minutes (because chances are he'll get injured if he gets fouled, and our league rivals will lose their best player for like 12 months).
 
Legally, there's something to do with consent - that by stepping on the pitch and taking part that you understand that you're at risk of injury, and that tackles can go wrong etc. But I don't know where the line is drawn. Ferguson headbutted someone off the ball? - not really part of the game! But this was a tackle, albeit a very bad one with not much to do with winning the ball.
 

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