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[Bedfordblue]

Interesting take from Alan Stubbs on a view from the bullens that you need athletes in your team and that generally means you need black players.

Ffs

 

[Bedfordblue]

The clue is the word athlete. 100 metres is athletics. Football now is about pace and running power which biologically is a strength of black people as evidence by sprinting and long distance running (Africans excel at this) It's actually a compliment to black people so I have no idea why people find offence in what Stubbs says . It's also very clear that more black players are playing at the highest level then ever before which lends itself to what Stubbs said.

It’s really surprising that Usain Bolt’s football career never went anywhere isn’t it?
Was fully expecting him to win the Ballon d’Or me.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

The word athlete doesn’t just refer to 100m though. You have picked one athletic aspect to justify what was said. How many other athletic sports/pursuits have white men at the peak? Tennis, gymnastics or swimming seem to be white male dominated from my minimal time watching them but that’s not a big enough sample size on its own to say all white men are athletes.

Looking at athletic elements across the board, you have various races involved in each.

No in football pace has become the main attribute which is a attribute which is biologically proven to be a asset more for black people because they have faster muscle twitch fibres. Africans by and large are superior in long distance running for many reasons ranging from climate to their ancestors with other factors included.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

It’s really surprising that Usain Bolt’s football career never went anywhere isn’t it?
Was fully expecting him to win the Ballon d’Or me.

Well that's very simplistic. You still need a basic level of competence obviously

 

[UltraVires]

Well that's very simplistic. You still need a basic level of competence obviously

a level you haven’t demonstrated with your replies whatsoever i am afraid.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

Because it's not strictly true. The genetic heritage for the best 100m runners is West Africa. Not 'black people'. Of those with West African generic heritage a tiny, tiny percentage will be world class 100m runners who are faster than world class 100m runners whose heritage is from other parts of the world. So from that all we can say is that to be the very fastest runner in the world you'd likely need West African heritage. It does not mean that all West Africans are fast 100m runners, nor that those with non-West African heritage are slow runners.

What Stubbs has said is a lazy, racial stereotype and it should be called out for what it is. It doesn't mean he's racist, it just means he's unthinking accepted a stereotype.

It's a biological fact because of faster muscle twitch fibres, why is that so hard to understand?

 

[Bedfordblue]

Well that's very simplistic. You still need a basic level of competence obviously

True, need to watch out for the ‘lazy’ ones too don’t you.

 

[summerisle]

No in football pace has become the main attribute which is a attribute which is biologically proven to be a asset more for black people because they have faster muscle twitch fibres. Africans by and large are superior in long distance running for many reasons ranging from climate to their ancestors with other factors included.

'Another built on the high prevalence of sprint-aiding fast-twitch muscle fibres, which tire easily but contract quickly, among black populations.

Scientist Errol Morrison and author Patrick Cooper's controversial hypothesis, published in the West Indian Medical Journal,, external was that the prevalence of sickle cell trait - a mutation that causes round, red, oxygen-carrying blood cells to curl up in a sickle shape - among people of West African origin had "triggered a series of physiological adjustments, which, incidentally, had favourable athletic consequences".

Prime among them was "a higher percentage of fast-twitch muscle fibres", which are less dependent upon oxygen.

Yet the theory was just that: a theory. No supporting data has ever been produced and, according to scientist Yannis Pitsiladis, it is unlikely it ever will.'

Race and sprinting: What is behind Olympic podium race divide?

Elite sprinting is dominated by black athletes. Theories as to why span painful history and cutting-edge science - and many are unproven.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Marcus Kendall]

a level you haven’t demonstrated with your replies whatsoever i am afraid.

Huh? I've explained scientifically why what Stubbs said is right if you want pace in your team then black people are biologically quicker (with exceptions as you will always have)

 

[Marcus Kendall]

'Another built on the high prevalence of sprint-aiding fast-twitch muscle fibres, which tire easily but contract quickly, among black populations.

Scientist Errol Morrison and author Patrick Cooper's controversial hypothesis, published in the West Indian Medical Journal,, external was that the prevalence of sickle cell trait - a mutation that causes round, red, oxygen-carrying blood cells to curl up in a sickle shape - among people of West African origin had "triggered a series of physiological adjustments, which, incidentally, had favourable athletic consequences".

Prime among them was "a higher percentage of fast-twitch muscle fibres", which are less dependent upon oxygen.

Yet the theory was just that: a theory. No supporting data has ever been produced and, according to scientist Yannis Pitsiladis, it is unlikely it ever will.'

Race and sprinting: What is behind Olympic podium race divide?

Elite sprinting is dominated by black athletes. Theories as to why span painful history and cutting-edge science - and many are unproven.

www.bbc.co.uk

Well I think sprinting where white guys are nowhere to be seen in the 100 and 200 metres suggests that these findings have a degree of truth to them

 

[Marcus Kendall]

True, need to watch out for the ‘lazy’ ones too don’t you.

Lazy ones? What do you mean?

 

[UltraVires]

Huh? I've explained scientifically why what Stubbs said is right if you want pace in your team then black people are biologically quicker (with exceptions as you will always have)

he actually just used the generic term “athlete” so it was you that took that to mean “pace”

 

[Marcus Kendall]

he actually just used the generic term “athlete” so it was you that took that to mean “pace”

In football athlete means pace, that's certainly how most fans would associate a player being described as athletic. We're always saying we need more pace and athletes in our team during match threads instead of 'slugs' like McNeil etc. Anyway I'm not carrying this conversation on as its off topic and I've made my point anyway

 

[Bedfordblue]

Lazy ones? What do you mean?

You know exactly what I’m implying, it’s the exact same stereotypical garbage you are espousing.
Care to explain why there aren’t more black players in professional rugby given their superior athletic abilities?
I mean it couldn’t be something to do with ease of access to certain sports in certain ethnic groups could play a part in proportional representation could it?

 

[UltraVires]

In football athlete means pace, that's certainly how most fans would associate a player being described as athletic. We're always saying we need more pace and athletes in our team during match threads instead of 'slugs' like McNeil etc. Anyway I'm not carrying this conversation on as its off topic and I've made my point anyway

I dont think many would use the word athlete when they meant pace in a football context.

Athlete is a catch all term for a combination of things with pace just being one. You haven’t made your point at all, you have made a hamfisted attempt to excuse a lazy piece of punditry.