New Stadium more important than Moutinho

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GhostOfDixie

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Right, there are just too many fires that need to be put out, and the current board are unable to do it. I believe Adi's (Bruce Wayne) idea of tapping into the fanbase resources is a wonderful idea and I would love it to happen.

Bottom line is we need investment, badly. We need marketing investment, financial investment, people with proven records in business acumen, people who are working with their heads and not their hearts.

To get this investment we need to have a stadium with great corporate facilities. That is paramount, essential, number 1 target. Not Moutinho, not M'bia, not Milito. A new stadium. If it means we struggle with little money and a bunch of rag tags, then I'll be happy, because its means to an end - and we've done well so far.

This is also leads me onto what I think has happened. The club never expected KP to be called in, (why???) so they were expecting to spend big, and use KP as a selling point. It got called in, and the selling point was no longer there.

Which really just illustrates the point I am making, we need to get a new stadium. The importance of this is incredible. We are like Man City, we are in the shadows of a great club ( however it pains me to say it), we have a similar fanbase, we have had a similar recent history - all though we have not fallen as hard as they did. The difference is, they got given a new stadium, and that has attracted new business.

The club needs to streamline the whole affair, pull in all the outsourced work, tap into Robert Earl's knowledge of marketing, and hire staff that are well trained and believe in one thing. Working for Everton should be like a religion, it should be a dedicated job. I know if I got that job for Everton when I applied, I would have treated it as a gift from the gods. To some its just a job.

Where it should be much much more than that.
 

Yes but ghost, this was all known 5years plus ago. An still [Poor language removed] all has happend. An in one summer we'v gone back 5 years.

What we need is a complete overhaule of the board. As they'v taken us down a very dark road, an doubt they can get us out.
 
This is also leads me onto what I think has happened. The club never expected KP to be called in, (why???) so they were expecting to spend big, and use KP as a selling point. It got called in, and the selling point was no longer there.

Agreed.

As I said straight after the call in, all it done was effectively end any spending plans, rather than end the Kirkby deal due to lack of alternatives.

No doubt LCC rejecting Evertons redevelopment plans of Bellfield also didnt help on the transfer front.
 
Agreed.

As I said straight after the call in, all it done was effectively end any spending plans, rather than end the Kirkby deal due to lack of alternatives.

No doubt LCC rejecting Evertons redevelopment plans of Bellfield also didnt help on the transfer front.

I agree.

I hate all this 'I have it on good authority...' But I do- The 'new goodison' ground work is still very much in operation. Although a spade has not yet gone into the ground, the amount of money tied up in the project means that it is still very much going ahead.

Whatever fans think about the move the call in was the worst thing that could have happened to us.
 
I wouldnt say a new stadium should be funded by reducing the transfer budget or selling our best players. It wont be much good having a new stadium like derby or southampton and then not being able to get back in the prem for 10 yrs!
 

Agreed.

As I said straight after the call in, all it done was effectively end any spending plans, rather than end the Kirkby deal due to lack of alternatives.

No doubt LCC rejecting Evertons redevelopment plans of Bellfield also didnt help on the transfer front.


We have a winner! I hate to say i told you so but...............
 
I wouldnt say a new stadium should be funded by reducing the transfer budget or selling our best players. It wont be much good having a new stadium like derby or southampton and then not being able to get back in the prem for 10 yrs!

No, but it should be diluted to allow for investment in the future. That future is a new stadium, not a young player on a 5 year contract who may do one in less than 3.
 
ok, what REALLY brings money in?

1)Gate receipts and corporate facilities - yes, a fair bit.

2)Perfomance related TV Money + CL revenue + Merchandising from being a well known successful club - yes, a shitload more.

My concern is that by going for the bricks and mortar approach, we risk throwing away all of the sterling work done so far towards point 2.

The arse got themselves a spanking new ground AFTER being at the top domestically and prominent in europe for a number of years, and it still hurt them, but at least they did it in the right order.

We should be getting things right on the pitch first, and using the revenue to allow us to move to a home that will do ud for the long term... if that means fixing up and making do at GP first, then so be it.

The alternative would be to add at least 80M to the c66M (although figures vary wildly) debt that we currently have - and then have an 'investor' come in, (in all likelihood following the investment model beloved of our American Friends over the park and at Man Ure) and leverage another £80-100M of debt on to pay for the club.

All for what? to be £220-240M in debt in a heavily resticted (in terms of earning potential and potential for expansion) Stadium that accomodates a maximum of 50,000 people, if they can be arsed to turn up to watch us fight Fulham for 14th place.

Sort the team out, the rest will come, if we do it arse about face we could be in trouble... we're not as fortunate as Citeh, we don't have a convenient Commonwealth Games Stadium to nick.
 
We have a winner! I hate to say i told you so but...............

That proves Billy is a liar then. What happened to the "the Kirkby decision will have no effect on our summer spending"???

Unless we were planning to spend cock all, regardless of the decision? :unsure:
 
ok, what REALLY brings money in?

1)Gate receipts and corporate facilities - yes, a fair bit.

2)Perfomance related TV Money + CL revenue + Merchandising from being a well known successful club - yes, a shitload more.

My concern is that by going for the bricks and mortar approach, we risk throwing away all of the sterling work done so far towards point 2.

The arse got themselves a spanking new ground AFTER being at the top domestically and prominent in europe for a number of years, and it still hurt them, but at least they did it in the right order.

We should be getting things right on the pitch first, and using the revenue to allow us to move to a home that will do ud for the long term... if that means fixing up and making do at GP first, then so be it.

The alternative would be to add at least 80M to the c66M (although figures vary wildly) debt that we currently have - and then have an 'investor' come in, (in all likelihood following the investment model beloved of our American Friends over the park and at Man Ure) and leverage another £80-100M of debt on to pay for the club.

All for what? to be £220-240M in debt in a heavily resticted (in terms of earning potential and potential for expansion) Stadium that accomodates a maximum of 50,000 people, if they can be arsed to turn up to watch us fight Fulham for 14th place.

Sort the team out, the rest will come, if we do it arse about face we could be in trouble... we're not as fortunate as Citeh, we don't have a convenient Commonwealth Games Stadium to nick.
Good post mate (y)
 

That proves Billy is a liar then. What happened to the "the Kirkby decision will have no effect on our summer spending"???

Unless we were planning to spend cock all, regardless of the decision? :unsure:
Come on mate everyone accepts hes a liar,but while he is the owner whose shares with those of his mates give him the majority theres not really much we can do:(
 
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