New Manager, Same Results?

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My thoughts....

Unsworth will inject fire into the bellies of the Everton players & results may improve temporarily, however I fear that long term he is not the answer & mediocrity will suffice, I wish him good luck but Everton need to move onwards & upwards & Unsworth is not the future in my opinion.

Managers who have impressed me in the premiership.......D Wagner & Marco Silva would be a good place to start....
 

The squad is better than they are playing and where we would have ended up if Ronnie stayed... unsworth knows what we expect... he will get them playing with a smile because if they follow his intructions and we see what we want.... the crowd will change and the players will feel it... he still has no forward but things couldn't get much worse than they were so onwards and upwards
 
Wow, defeatist already.

Look, a LOT of us have mentioned since the transfer window closed that the current squad just has so many holes in it. It doesn't make it a BAD squad tho. There are pretty much good answers for most, depending on how Unsworth wants to play.

Sandro COULD be good if he either a) plays off of someone like DCL or Rooney(because he's really creative to put balls through with). Vlasic is good out wide, Mirallas on the other side and, lo and behold, we have width AND pace. Defense is a bit concerning but Unsworth, I have faith, can at least put something resembling not the keystone cops back there. Bench one of Gana or Schneiderlein(we all know who it should be), play Davies as the box to box with Klassen coming off the bench in THAT position occasionally.

It's really not that hard and I think we will see Unworth figure the same out pretty sharpish.
 
I'm quite optimistic. We're in the bottom three but not adrift from the teams around us... we are three wins away from fourth place not seventeenth ffs. There is still a chance (a slim one) of us getting out of our Europa League Group, and we still have two domestic cups to play for. We have a new man in the hot seat, and no doubt the players will feel like a cloud has been lifted from them. I'm sure David Unsworth will not be on some arrogant ego trip and will instead implement a usable system that the players find more suitable and productive than of late. There will be a better understanding and communication within the whole setup, and a better sense of purpose and direction.

I really need to stop drinking in the afternoons lol
 
I'm quite optimistic. We're in the bottom three but not adrift from the teams around us... we are three wins away from fourth place not seventeenth ffs. There is still a chance (a slim one) of us getting out of our Europa League Group, and we still have two domestic cups to play for. We have a new man in the hot seat, and no doubt the players will feel like a cloud has been lifted from them. I'm sure David Unsworth will not be on some arrogant ego trip and will instead implement a usable system that the players find more suitable and productive than of late. There will be a better understanding and communication within the whole setup, and a better sense of purpose and direction.

I really need to stop drinking in the afternoons lol
Aye,but at least your glass is half full rather than half empty ! :pint2:
 

No one will know,but we can only hope players are played in there right postions,that we actually have a game plan,act as a team and not a bunch of strangers,and that we show passion,commitment and desire to win,and not look as though we are not bothered no matter what the players have been saying,for me we have hardly showed a thing,and been playing as most seem to think like the boss lost the players-so hopefully the new boss will as it seems to happen most times lift the players and they show him what they have not showed previous boss
 
I reckon the squad is actually okay. I mean all bar Lukaku remain from the squad that finished 7th at a canter. The problem isn't the personnel so much as the number of new players brought into the squad in one go. It takes time to build up cohesion, and the team are strangers to each other at the moment. I mean the lineup against Stoke had 5 debutants (including Rooney and excluding Sigurdsson). That's a lot of new blood to get up to speed. What's more, they were playing a new formation, so even those who have been around the club for longer would have needed time to adapt to it. Strange players in a strange formation = what we've seen.

I'm just not sure it's a quick fix as what the team needs is time and consistency (of selection and tactics).
Yes it's a weird one, the Lukaku thing. On the one hand I read a stat that without his goals we were still 7th. That stat looks a bit empty now.
 
1st Para: Agree.

Need 2 x strikers + LB + CB. Praying for Seamus, Bolasie and Barks fit for Xmas fixtures!

Striker: Sandro goes on loan
LB, Get Galloway back as cover/competition
CB, Jags, Keane, FM, Holgate, Williams... Don't need 5, need 4. 1 goes.

MF At least 2 on loan/sold from this lot: Martina, McCarthy, Besic, Klassen. Not good and/or fit enough.

Losing the 4 above pays for at least 1 decent striker to improve quality of squad. Cost = £0

2nd Para: Agree.

We overpaid and not in positions we needed players. Quantity not quality.
  • Barry, Snides good on the ball with Gana and Davies to break. Pickford, Keane, OK young English 50m the pair.
  • So Walsh and Koeman have literally wasted £90M+ of the 140m spent. Other players are making impact at other clubs on much smaller budgets (Richarlison, Brady, the lad at Leicester). People knew about Lukaku leaving (well done Koeman, who said publicly he'd need to leave) and they saw us coming...
  • Not adding a striker now seems almost unbelievable. Vardy? Walsh goes, for me.
3rd para.

Totally agree... needs until season-end minimum

I agree with many of your points but spending silly Money on a 30 year old Vardy who will probably need replacing in 18 months would not be sensible
 
Hm, take your point(s).

If we're thinking survival now, shouldn't we go for someone with those creds now? Back to Dyche, Pulis, Allardyce.

The more one thinks about this the greater the amount of sH8te you realise we have to plough through now either way, and how much we need Seamus, Ross and Yannick back.
Hm, take your point(s).

If we're thinking survival now, shouldn't we go for someone with those creds now? Back to Dyche, Pulis, Allardyce.

The more one thinks about this the greater the amount of sH8te you realise we have to plough through now either way, and how much we need Seamus, Ross and Yannick back.
We are 9 games in, survival isn't on the table and nor should it be considered when picking a manager. So going out and trying to get the best manager possible has to be the only course of action. Plus I believe it cements our ambition if we bring in a manager with the view of improving rather than staying safe, tuchel no matter how unlikely woupd represent the club still wanting to compete whereas a dyche would represent us still being the club we were before now.
 

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Casting my mind back to the summer, there was an overwhelming sense of optimism. After years of fallow transfer windows, we burst out of the blocks with gusto, with barely a day going by without a new signing coming in. It made everyone sit up and take notice and made all of us look forward to what the season would bring.

Of course, as we now know, that optimism has been shattered by the worst start to a season in over a decade. What's more, the new signings that made us so excited a few months ago have all largely flattered to deceive, and with European football seemingly over and done with, the inevitable has happened and Koeman has been shown the door.

Whilst I wouldn't put myself as a Koeman supporter, I was initially writing this post barely an hour before he was officially sacked, as I felt there are a number of factors that significantly hampered our progress this season that will also hamper whomever our new manager is.
A team of strangers


The summer was really something to behold. For almost as long as I can remember transfer windows would be full of naff rumours, gallows humour and the inevitable signing of a young eastern European goalkeeper on deadline day. This summer was different though, and different in a huge way. I believe we officially signed 25 players, which put us comfortably at the top of the signings league table. It's not quite as prestigious as the 7th place trophy, but given our past is still something.

Of course, not all of those players were for the first team, and a good number were signed very much with the under 23's in mind, but nonetheless, we made a significant overhaul of the first team squad. I'm nothing but an armchair critic, so have no idea how long it takes to integrate new signings into a team, but I can't personally recall any team make such a comprehensive overhaul of their squad and have a strong season afterwards. The likes of Liverpool and Spurs, after the Suarez and Bale windfalls respectively, both struggled to integrate a host of new signings, and we've gone further than both. It isn't clear quite how long we should realistically wait for the team to play like they know one another, but it wouldn't surprise me if we don't see the best of them until next season.
A glut of games


This was compounded by an incredibly heavy fixture list in our season to date. With Europa games plus the League Cup, we've barely had a single week without at least two games to play. This inevitably means that training sessions are devoted more towards recovering from the previous game than they are helping the squad know what to expect, both from their new team mates and the tactics Koeman wanted them to play. Throw in a couple of international breaks and it resulted in precious little productive time on the training pitch for the players to familiarise themselves with each other. Of course, it's quite possible that by the time we appoint a new manager full-time we won't have either Europa or League cups to worry about, but that seems scant consolation.


Fixtures from hell


Another factor that underpins performances on the pitch is confidence. Not only do you need to know the strengths and weakness of your colleagues, and the tactics of your coach, but have the confidence in both yourself and the aforementioned. This comes largely from success on the pitch, and the fixture computer gave us an incredibly challenging start with which to build such confidence. Indeed, with a run of heavy defeats, you could visibly see the confidence draining from the players.



A new manager could undoubtedly help by selecting a more consistent lineup, but confidence only really comes via wins, and we're in something of a vicious cycle at the moment that will take some getting out of.
The cavalry not arriving


It seems peculiar to be bemoaning absentees given the huge outlay on new players, but we've nonetheless missed a number of players that would make a real difference to our squad. Arguably the biggest absence has been Seamus, who is arguably irreplaceable on the right flank. Koeman tried three different players, and even a change in formation, to try and fill a void that never really looked like being filled. Likewise Ross, whose stock has risen with each week out of a team that was crying out for the kind of 'productivity' that he's provided regularly over the years. Even Bolasie and Funes Mori would both offer attractive options over the likes of DCL and Williams respectively.

Whilst all four of these are due to be fit before too long, it remains to be seen how long it will be before they're 100% fit and back to their best. It's no guarantee, therefore, that the new manager will benefit from their return to the squad for a little while yet.

I certainly wouldn't want to be an apologist for a manager that never really built up the emotional backing of the fans during his short time at the club, but I feel the above would have challenged far better managers than Koeman, and it is probably not realistic to expect whomever our new manager ends up being to come in and instantly turn us around.
FIXTURES


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The squad is better than they are playing and where we would have ended up if Ronnie stayed... unsworth knows what we expect... he will get them playing with a smile because if they follow his intructions and we see what we want.... the crowd will change and the players will feel it... he still has no forward but things couldn't get much worse than they were so onwards and upwards
This is it mate. All this focus on managers' tactics and strategies make it sound like the English premier chess league. We just need the men on the park to stop playing like Teds, show some personal ambition and desire, and things will massively improve.

I mean I get why there's so much talk on footballing strategy - we need a new manager, and the way you tell them apart is their approach to the game. But it's the players that make it happen and they are playing way, way below their natural level. I think even if we had no manager at all for the next few games, like an empty chair, we'd see a marked improvement.
 

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