New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium

Which is why the whole thing should have been refused planning permission by the local authority.

But here we are.

As for those with mobility issues getting there early to get around the finite resources placed their way by this plan: people who are disabled usually have multiple health issues and adding on a couple of hours to match attendance with a drop off / pick up way before / way after the kick off / final whistle effectively means they'll have to think long and hard about that attendance.

People have to stop thinking abstractly about what difficulties others need to surmount to attend a match at the BMD.
Transport problem can be applied by to many developments past and present and certainly into the future, don't see why Everton FC have to be the example. EiC does plenty and more than many other clubs.
 

I wouldn't recommend walking from Stanley Park to the ground.

Suggest you use the park and ride train car parks and get off at Sandhills

Live just over the from Shropshire and reside in Powys. I've joined supporter club for the first time, so will bus in, mainly because can't be arsed to drive so much these days as I did when I last had season ticket in the late 90s.
 

Question about the hospitality on seatunique. I have to book days off from work weeks in advance to get to games as I live down in Suffolk and was seriously considering avoiding the lottery balllot for the Fulham game.

Although expensive, I’m fancying treating myself to a guaranteed ticket for my first visit in either Village Street, or Trinity place bar.

Is there a reason that I’m missing why the Trinity place bar package is more expensive than Village Street?

They both offer the same perks i.e padded seats, food token and drinks bar etc etc, but the cheaper Village street seems to offer more in terms of places to go?

Village street has Kendall’s social bar, Dixie’s sports bar and two “traditional pubs” The Queens Head and and the Prince Rupert.

The Trinity place bar which is minimum 50 quid more expensive, just has the Trinity place bar and that’s it.

Am I missing something?
 

Which is why the whole thing should have been refused planning permission by the local authority.

But here we are.

As for those with mobility issues getting there early to get around the finite resources placed their way by this plan: people who are disabled usually have multiple health issues and adding on a couple of hours to match attendance with a drop off / pick up way before / way after the kick off / final whistle effectively means they'll have to think long and hard about that attendance.

People have to stop thinking abstractly about what difficulties others need to surmount to attend a match at the BMD.

The responsibility for prudence and providence are probably equally shared. Unfortunately, disabled people generally need to arrive early at practically all stadia and mass attendance venues, if they're to avoid inconvenience. That is not that unusual...... and certainly would not mean a planning permission refusal. Plus of course the club/planners have always had the city centre's massive public transport capacity nearby, with walking to and from that to fall back on, for the able-bodied..... Knowsley were perfectly happy to give planning permission for the Kirkby stadium without any of that being available.

Yes, it's far from ideal at present, but medium and longer term transport plans will greatly alleviate that. Conversely though, if we had to wait till they were all in place, then Moshiri would've probably been gone and the whole opportunity missed for another generation or more. So a lot depends on how important you feel it was to get the new stadium, because sometimes those opportunities are fleeting, and never come around again.
 

Question about the hospitality on seatunique. I have to book days off from work weeks in advance to get to games as I live down in Suffolk and was seriously considering avoiding the lottery balllot for the Fulham game.

Although expensive, I’m fancying treating myself to a guaranteed ticket for my first visit in either Village Street, or Trinity place bar.

Is there a reason that I’m missing why the Trinity place bar package is more expensive than Village Street?

They both offer the same perks i.e padded seats, food token and drinks bar etc etc, but the cheaper Village street seems to offer more in terms of places to go?

Village street has Kendall’s social bar, Dixie’s sports bar and two “traditional pubs” The Queens Head and and the Prince Rupert.

The Trinity place bar which is minimum 50 quid more expensive, just has the Trinity place bar and that’s it.

Am I missing something?
Village Street sounds more like a pub and you only get one food item.

Trinity Place more like a sit-down restaurant with an exclusive bar and you get a three-course meal.

If I was treating someone or it was something special, I'd choose Trinity Place - otherwise if it was just me and a mate I'd go for Village Street.

 

Question about the hospitality on seatunique. I have to book days off from work weeks in advance to get to games as I live down in Suffolk and was seriously considering avoiding the lottery balllot for the Fulham game.

Although expensive, I’m fancying treating myself to a guaranteed ticket for my first visit in either Village Street, or Trinity place bar.

Is there a reason that I’m missing why the Trinity place bar package is more expensive than Village Street?

They both offer the same perks i.e padded seats, food token and drinks bar etc etc, but the cheaper Village street seems to offer more in terms of places to go?

Village street has Kendall’s social bar, Dixie’s sports bar and two “traditional pubs” The Queens Head and and the Prince Rupert.

The Trinity place bar which is minimum 50 quid more expensive, just has the Trinity place bar and that’s it.

Am I missing something?
Trinity place is a 3 course meal isn’t it with a seat near the pitch around the halfway line.

Village street is just a voucher for 1 food item. I think they’re similar seats.
 
There's 54 disabled parking spots at the new stadium; off site parking areas for disabled people has been set up, but these lie outside the soft closure areas to the north and south of the hard closure areas directly outside the stadium. The soft parking zones are still a distance to the stadium itself (including that long walk through the gates and to the stadium entrance) and any disabled person who doesn't drive but wanting to use the soft parking zones to be dropped off will need to use it at least one hour before the game kicks off because after that point that also becomes a hard parking zone.
Sorry Dave that's incorrect, there are 100 parking places at the new stadium, as per

 
Village Street sounds more like a pub and you only get one food item.

Trinity Place more like a sit-down restaurant with an exclusive bar and you get a three-course meal.

If I was treating someone or it was something special, I'd choose Trinity Place - otherwise if it was just me and a mate I'd go for Village Street.


Trinity place is a 3 course meal isn’t it with a seat near the pitch around the halfway line.

Village street is just a voucher for 1 food item. I think they’re similar seats.
That maybe the case for the season tickets, but for these one off hospitality packages they both offer the same perks and both are 1 token food voucher
 

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How long will that take? Im use to parking here and walking to goodison. I live in Shrewsbury so lack of knowledge

According to Google maps it's a 57min walk from Stanley Park to BMD. There was talk of a shuttle bus from there a while ago, but haven't heard it mentioned recently. Nor does there appear to be any bus companies rushing to provide that service so far. On that score, a lot depends on whether or not there is a clear enough bus route to/from the stadium (including turnarounds). Otherwise it is just not viable, unless subsidised.
 
The responsibility for prudence and providence are probably equally shared. Unfortunately, disabled people generally need to arrive early at practically all stadia and mass attendance venues, if they're to avoid inconvenience. That is not that unusual...... and certainly would not mean a planning permission refusal. Plus of course the club/planners have always had the city centre's massive public transport capacity nearby, with walking to and from that to fall back on, for the able-bodied..... Knowsley were perfectly happy to give planning permission for the Kirkby stadium without any of that being available.

Yes, it's far from ideal at present, but medium and longer term transport plans will greatly alleviate that. Conversely though, if we had to wait till they were all in place, then Moshiri would've probably been gone and the whole opportunity missed for another generation or more. So a lot depends on how important you feel it was to get the new stadium, because sometimes those opportunities are fleeting, and never come around again.

Everton's generational opportunity came and went with the Kings Dock development.

As for disabled access: many events are held within a city centre and so will be well catered to for access.

I just dont think there's any empathy being shown to what it actually means for someone with multiple health issues attending BMS under present plans: if disabled people are handed a soft parking zone drop window stretching up to an hour before a game and then get picked up after the game (which is allowed "following the final whistle once crowds have dispersed"), then they are looking at a match day (if it's a 3pm KO for example) stretching from approx 1.0pm-1.30pm (allowing for drive time, say, and a drop off) and ending (after crowd dispersal and the lifting of restrictions - which means a hell of a wait for pick up) circa 7pm.

You cant account for individual capabilities to deal with that situation of course, but I'd say that's nigh on impossible for most disabled people given the hustle and bustle of a football match experience.

I say again: abstractions wont cut muster here. There's going to be a major shakeout of Everton fans who are disabled or on the older end of the age spectrum.
 
That maybe the case for the season tickets, but for these one off hospitality packages they both offer the same perks and both are 1 token food voucher
You'd think that the 'one food item' would mean one of whatever they are serving (so three-course meal in Trinity) but worth checking with SeatUnique. Let us know, as I'm debating similar options if I bring my partner over at some point. (I'll be coming on my own via the ballot hopefully before then.)
 
The 45 places was stated in the Transport Plan, so must have been upgraded. I not though that those spots need to be secured no later than 2 hours before the game.

Never underestimate what time windows mean for the disabled.
You didn't answer around the provision at goodison, for me it seems there is increased provision for those with accessibility issues, more parking spaces at the stadium and a dedicated shuttle bus - at the moment I'm guessing at goodison those with accessibility issues would have to make their own way from Stanley park or battle the crowds for a closer drop off ?
 

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