New Everton Stadium Discussion

Yes i did it was quite interesting actually. I might look into it a bit more thanks for that.

But I don't get the link with Everton FC.
Our new ground is being built on Bramley-Moore dock and the club have rightly taken the decision to recognise the horrific slave trade associated with John Bramley-Moore. What is your issue with that? Why wouldn't it have been done 5/10 years ago?
 
Shut up with this slavery bollocks. A qoute from history books.

Slavery dates back to prehistoric times and was apparently modeled on the domestication of animals. From the earliest periods of recorded history, slavery was found in the world's most "advanced" regions. The earliest civilizations--along the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in Mesopotamia, the Nile in Egypt, the Indus Valley of India, and China's Yangtze River Valley--had slavery. The earliest known system of laws, the Hammurabi Code, recognized slavery. But the percentage of slaves in these early civilizations was small, in part because male war captives were typically killed, while women were enslaved as field laborers or concubines.
Only a handful of societies made slavery the dominant labor force. The first true slave society in history emerged in ancient Greece between the 6th and 4th centuries. In Athens during the classical period, a third to a half of the population consisted of slaves. Rome would become even more dependent on slavery. It is not an accident that our modern ideas of freedom and democracy emerged in a slave society. Most early societies lacked a word for freedom; but large-scale slavery in classical Greece and Rome made these people more aware of the distinctive nature of freedom. Slavery never disappeared from medieval Europe. While slavery declined in northwestern Europe, it persisted in Sicily, southern Italy, Russia, southern France, Spain, and North Africa. Most of these slaves were "white," coming from areas in Eastern Europe or near the Black Sea.

Anyway our stadium built on our famous docks will be ace.
 
Our new ground is being built on Bramley-Moore dock and the club have rightly taken the decision to recognise the horrific slave trade associated with John Bramley-Moore. What is your issue with that? Why wouldn't it have been done 5/10 years ago?
We're not buying it off him are we?

We already know the history of the docks and have recognised this as a City...years ago.

5 or 10 years ago nobody was pulling down statues of slave traders.Thats why the club are doing it.

Imo of course.
 

We're not buying it off him are we?

We already know the history of the docks and have recognised this as a City...years ago.

5 or 10 years ago nobody was pulling down statues of slave traders.
Thats why the club are doing it.

Imo of course.

But why does it bother you ?

The club aren’t saying they’re culpable for the slave trade, they’re just creating a reference to it on the site

Very weird thing to take issue with.
 
We're not buying it off him are we?

We already know the history of the docks and have recognised this as a City...years ago.

5 or 10 years ago nobody was pulling down statues of slave traders.Thats why the club are doing it.

Imo of course.
so you think because people weren't pulling down statues of slave traders 10 years ago, they shouldn't be doing it now?
 

But why does it bother you ?

The club aren’t saying they’re culpable for the slave trade, they’re just creating a reference to it on the site

Very weird thing to take issue with.
I genuinely couldn't give a toss ?

It's an off the cuff comment that I don't see the point in arguing about.

Like I said 10 years ago I don't think it would have even been mentioned.
 
I genuinely couldn't give a toss ?

It's an off the cuff comment that I don't see the point in arguing about.

Like I said 10 years ago I don't think it would have even been mentioned.
ok, say you're right and it wouldn't have been mentioned 10 years ago,
It's good that it's being mentioned now, right.
John Bramley Moore traded humans like livestock. I'm glad the club will acknowledge his history while also moving away from the use of his name.
I'm also made up with the news of the Irish connection being highlighted. It's how I became a blue.
 

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