Moyes - should he stay or should he go?

[Swartzy]

Distinct lack of success, joy or goonery in this thread.

It's like doing a rubix cube

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Stated multiple times in the post that I don't want De Zerbi? Fatal character flaws that would never fly here, would be a disaster.

I'm just pointing out that for some reason the most devoted Moyes cultists such as yourself seem to be threatened or irritated by the mere existence of younger managers that play football which is in any way innovative or progressive. Wonder why that is?

I dunno mate, you're a bit quick on the attack of Moyes there. I get definite Di Zerbi bedsheets off you pal. It's okay, nail your colours to the mast. No one will judge you if you copy his hairstyle too.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

It's like doing a rubix cube

I think the Goonery aspect just got sorted.

 

[COYBL25]

Some proper nonsense being spouted. If we was asked at the start of the season would it be a good season if we was fighting for a potential European spot in the last few games of the season 99.9% would have said yes.

I'm not even a Moyes fan boy but some of the anti Moyes ones literally change the goalposts constantly to suit the anti Moyes agenda they have.

If he stays sound hopefully we continue progressing next season too, if he goes I'll wish him nothing but the best for the hard works hes put in to stabilise the club after the woeful last few years and hopefully the next manager comes in and continues the progression Moyes has started.

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[Benicetoourboys]

This

Its making the thread unreadable even though I've got most of them on ignore.

 

[Bedfordblue]

I think the Goonery aspect just got sorted.

 

[Swartzy]

This whole rubbish league this year is such dribble, is it really better looking at the table at the start of the season and being able to basically pinpoint how it will play out, who is grabbing the title, who grabs Europe, who gets relegated..

Sorry but that is repetitive drab..

We still have the title on the line.
Europe on the line (with us in the mix)
Relegation on the line ( with Spurs in the mix ).

 

[preposterousvelios]

I dunno mate, you're a bit quick on the attack of Moyes there. I get definite Di Zerbi bedsheets off you pal. It's okay, nail your colours to the mast. No one will judge you if you copy his hairstyle too.

De Zerbi is flavour of the month if the month is May 2023.

If you're thinking he's flavour of the month in 2026 I would have to assume you don't pay much attention to football outside Everton.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

De Zerbi is flavour of the month if the month is May 2023.

If you're thinking he's flavour of the month in 2026 I would have to assume you don't pay much attention to football outside Everton.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But I thought he wasn't a flavour of the month due to his longstanding record in coaching?

Jesus pal, make your mind up. Anyone would think you're mining AI for info on him to win internet points.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

This whole rubbish league this year is such dribble, is it really better looking at the table at the start of the season and being able to basically pinpoint how it will play out, who is grabbing the title, who grabs Europe, who gets relegated..

Sorry but that is repetitive drab..

We still have the title on the line.
Europe on the line (with us in the mix)
Relegation on the line ( with Spurs in the mix ).

Talking about the quality not the entertainment value Swartzy. Name me the teams who are playing to their level or above this season? If you can name more than 5 I'd be amazed. Look at the 'champions' league. RS, Cheatsea outclassed by PSG, Newcastle humbled by Barcelona, Spurs humbled by Atletico and the Sportwashers humbled by a non vintage Real Madrid team

 

[preposterousvelios]

But I thought he wasn't a flavour of the month due to his longstanding record in coaching?

Jesus pal, make your mind up. Anyone would think you're mining AI for info on him to win internet points.

Except nothing I've written would suggest in any way that I've been using AI, because I have never and will use AI. I have in fact posted on this forum asking that any AI generated images be banned from being posted.

All I've done is point out you being confidently wrong, and rather than engage with anything I've said you've first tried to accuse me of being a fan boy of a manager that I stated multiple times I don't want. And now you're accusing me of using AI to deflect as you don't have actually have anything of value to say.

 

[Bkk Andy]

This highlights a sympton of how the influx of money hasn't been followed by a reformation of the outflow.

Years ago "loyalty" payments, paying out contracts etc. were an outcome at a time when wages were much lower. Of course the players' agents (collective) have pushed for the increase in wage, but without commensurate reduction in other clauses - can't blame them, it's what they're paid to do. And for clubs to push back it has to be on a unanimous basis, or with intervention from regulators - so it won't change.

On Moyes I appreciate the job he's done in stabalising us, but I don't believe we're ever going to trouble the engravers under him. I suspect this European push is a year at least earlier than planned - mainly a function of the general dross in the league. If there was someone lined up for the long-term, then I wouldn't be sorry to see him go. But I want words like "project" and "transformation" banned from the boardroom to the tea room.

Unless we qualify for the conference league I don't think we're in any danger of troubling the engravers with any manager. A lucky cup? Possibly, but the league is loaded and we won't win it unless WWIII wipes out half the planet.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Chances of getting rid and upgrading are slim, to say the least. More likely to get the Rosenior experience than the Arteta experience. Funny how someone like Arteta rates Moyes highly (among most of his former players) yet some fans don't. Often its people who don't understand the sporting side and just want their team to play open, which if actually implemented usually ends in suboptimal results for weaker teams.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Except nothing I've written would suggest in any way that I've been using AI, because I have never and will use AI. I have in fact posted on this forum asking that any AI generated images be banned from being posted.

All I've done is point out you being confidently wrong, and rather than engage with anything I've said you've first tried to accuse me of being a fan boy of a manager that I stated multiple times I don't want. And now you're accusing me of using AI to deflect as you don't have actually have anything of value to say.

I asked AI to summarise his career and it gave me your exact argument. Now put yer Di Zerbi slippers on and chill, gramps

 

[preposterousvelios]

I asked AI to summarise his career and it gave me your exact argument. Now put yer Di Zerbi slippers on and chill, gramps

Right so because you've used AI to source information rather than actually knowing what you're talking about, and the AI has fed you similar talking points to what I've been saying that means I must be using AI.

And I'm the one getting called gramps ffs.