Morgan Schneiderlin

MikeH72 · January 6, 2017

ijjysmith said:
For what it's worth I like Vin Diesel in everything except those Riddick movies. Just couldn't get on with them.

MORGS

Vin Diesel looks like my dad.

MORGAN COME ON

canuckblue · January 6, 2017

Bungle said:
I think it's tears and pi$$ I can smell

You live near Aldridge?

EvertonRhys · January 6, 2017

Wednesday: Positive talk at the AGM
Thursday: Lookman signing, USM and a weird sheep video

Come on Everton, give me some material for tonight.

Hogwild · January 6, 2017

Osamabindiesel said:
Agreed. We can't trust Jimmy Mac or Besic to stay healthy, and Davies is still too young to be relied on. Schneiderlin has played under Koeman and is at least a proven Premier League player

At the risk of incurring the wrath of @MoutsGoat i have real concern about the ability of the boy Besic to stay healthy. I like the player, but think planning around him is perilous....

Gueye - stud
Schneiderlin - what the doctor ordered
Barry - at this stage in his career not a week in, week out player over a season, but the kind of professional that benefits a club
Davies - very promising, but still very young
Besic - injured, but I think a nice player, can we count on him though...

That is a solid group. As to the others...

McCarthy - I think he will be sold, and I think he wants to leave to pursue first team football. I like the lad so I hope he finds it.
Cleverley - we will receive an offer and he will be sold
Gibson - if we are fortunate enough to receive a real offer then he will be sold

Goat · January 6, 2017

Hogwild said:
At the risk of incurring the wrath of @MoutsGoat i have real concern about the ability of the boy Besic to stay healthy. I like the player, but think planning around him is perilous....

Gueye - stud
Schneiderlin - what the doctor ordered
Barry - at this stage in his career not a week in, week out player over a season, but the kind of professional that benefits a club
Davies - very promising, but still very young
Besic - injured, but I think a nice player, can we count on him though...

That is a solid group. As to the others...

McCarthy - I think he will be sold, and I think he wants to leave to pursue first team football. I like the lad so I hope he finds it.
Cleverley - we will receive an offer and he will be sold
Gibson - if we are fortunate enough to receive a real offer then he will be sold

At this point Besic cant be relied upon, thats clear, if he comes back and stays injury free, well we can include him in things then, but hes just suffered a major, major injury, after a few niggles regarding his hamstrings, its a tough ask to expect him to be "brand new".

I have concerns, as im sure Ronny does.

Snides and Gana will help me through this difficult time, 4 weeks till the return of the King, ive never been so nervous in my life.

Hogwild · January 6, 2017

EvertonRhys said:
Wednesday: Positive talk at the AGM
Thursday: Lookman signing, USM and a weird sheep video

Come on Everton, give me some material for tonight.

Mate?

davek · January 6, 2017

bluestevon said:
Lukaku 28m
Besic 4.5m
McCarthy 13m
Kone 6m
Robles 2.5m
McGeady 1.5m
Niasse 13.5m
Mori 10.5m
Deulofu 4.5m
Lennon 5m
Tarashaj - 3.5m
Holgate 1m
Rodriguez .5m
Barry 3m

Thats 97m worth of players if you actually include all the players he bought mate, rather than picking and choosing one - although can see why you left off the ones with utterly no resale value as it would undermine your point a lot wouldnt it.

Now heres a question - remove Lukaku from this list and of the other 13 players bought by martinez would we make a profit or a substantial loss on the 69m paid ?

Kone was £5M, Barry was £1m; Holgate was 500k; Lennon was £4.5M; Mori was £9.5M.

You left out Galloway for 400K and Cleverley on a free.

All told Martinez spent £80M on the 24 players he brought in, not £90M http://toffeeweb.com/players/transfers.php

Just by selling Lukaku we'll get half that back. In this market where players like Bolassie and Schneiderlin are hitting the mid £20M/late £20M mark, a player like McCarthy is going to go for no less than £18M; Mori will fetch easy that £18M also; Deulofeu will fetch £7/8M (FFS, Anichebe fetched £6M 4 years ago!) Galloway will go for £4/5M; Cleverley will go for circa £5/6M; Holgate will fetch right now £8/9M; Tarasaj there will be no loss on that and we'll scoop probably £3/4M back; Barry sold tomorrow for a nominal fee of about £2M; Lennon would get us about our money back again, so £4/5M; Niasse will be bought by a Turkish club for a knockdown £4/5M; Robles would fetch about £4M in this market place; Kone and McGeady we'll get zip for.

Let's say we get (conservative £45M for Lukaku), the rest would fetch between £80M/£85M. Total with Lukaku = £125M/£130M.

BlueToff · January 6, 2017

davek said:
Kone was £5M, Barry was £1m; Holgate was 500k; Lennon was £4.5M; Mori was £9.5M.

You left out Galloway for 400K and Cleverley on a free.

All told Martinez spent £80M on the 24 players he brought in, not £90M http://toffeeweb.com/players/transfers.php

Just by selling Lukaku we'll get half that back. In this market where players like Bolassie and Schneiderlin are hitting the mid £20M/late £20M mark, a player like McCarthy is going to go for no less than £18M; Mori will fetch easy that £18M also; Deulofeu will fetch £7/9M (FFS, Anichebe fetched £6M 4 years ago!) Galloway will go for £4/5M; Cleverley will go for circa £5/6M; Holgate will fetch right now £8/9M; Tarasaj there will be no loss on that and we'll scoop probably £3/4M back; Barry sold tomorrow for a nominal fee of about £2M; Lennon would get us about our money back again, so £4/5M; Niasse will be bought by a Turkish club for a knockdown £4/5M; Robles would fetch about £4M in this market place; Kone and McGeady we'll get zip for.

Let's say we get (conservative £50M for Lukaku), the rest would fetch between £85M/£90M. Total with Lukaku = £135M/£140M.

Kone was £6mil

GETEM · January 6, 2017

If we've begun a new negotiation over United's Depay that must mean the Schneiderlin deal is pretty much done or has completely fell through?

Osamabindiesel · January 6, 2017

Hogwild said:
At the risk of incurring the wrath of @MoutsGoat i have real concern about the ability of the boy Besic to stay healthy. I like the player, but think planning around him is perilous....

Gueye - stud
Schneiderlin - what the doctor ordered
Barry - at this stage in his career not a week in, week out player over a season, but the kind of professional that benefits a club
Davies - very promising, but still very young
Besic - injured, but I think a nice player, can we count on him though...

That is a solid group. As to the others...

McCarthy - I think he will be sold, and I think he wants to leave to pursue first team football. I like the lad so I hope he finds it.
Cleverley - we will receive an offer and he will be sold
Gibson - if we are fortunate enough to receive a real offer then he will be sold

I think Barry should be kept around for those park the bus situations as he can be an excellent passer in counter-attacking situations. We need to try and drop some of the dead weight (and McCarthy who deserves first team football somewhere) and strengthen some other positions after we bring in Morgs *fingers crossed. CB, Wing and a backup ST that can accommodate Lukaku.

Gladystweet · January 6, 2017

Well, after admitting I knew next to nothing about Schneiderlin, I've stalked him ever since and have to admit I'm impressed.
He's not just better than what we have, he's miles better. Him and Gueye in the middle could be very exciting indeed. First time we've had a mobile midfield for a while. Bit gutted Gueye is going to be away for a while, but it's going to give a few of the others a chance to prove their worth....or not...
Get it done and get it done early.

davek · January 6, 2017

BlueToff said:
Kone was £6mil

£5M

Goat · January 6, 2017

davek said:
£5M

Dave if you wish to discuss Martinez may I suggest you take this to the Martinez thread.

Thanks.

carolinablue232 · January 6, 2017

davek said:
Kone was £5M, Barry was £1m; Holgate was 500k; Lennon was £4.5M; Mori was £9.5M.

You left out Galloway for 400K and Cleverley on a free.

All told Martinez spent £80M on the 24 players he brought in, not £90M http://toffeeweb.com/players/transfers.php

Just by selling Lukaku we'll get half that back. In this market where players like Bolassie and Schneiderlin are hitting the mid £20M/late £20M mark, a player like McCarthy is going to go for no less than £18M; Mori will fetch easy that £18M also; Deulofeu will fetch £7/8M (FFS, Anichebe fetched £6M 4 years ago!) Galloway will go for £4/5M; Cleverley will go for circa £5/6M; Holgate will fetch right now £8/9M; Tarasaj there will be no loss on that and we'll scoop probably £3/4M back; Barry sold tomorrow for a nominal fee of about £2M; Lennon would get us about our money back again, so £4/5M; Niasse will be bought by a Turkish club for a knockdown £4/5M; Robles would fetch about £4M in this market place; Kone and McGeady we'll get zip for.

Let's say we get (conservative £45M for Lukaku), the rest would fetch between £80M/£85M. Total with Lukaku = £125M/£130M.

Can we talk about the wages his worthless signings have and continue to suck out of the club or do those not count? Let's aggregate those into this cost shall we?