Transfer Rumour Morgan Gibbs-White

[blulouie]

if wolves are willing to let him go to us, they can't rate him.

They've offered him a new contract mert.

 

[catcherintherye]

They are compared to us.

Werent they in the bottom 3 for the last 17 games last season? In what way would you define that as "moving upwards"?

 

[catcherintherye]

He would if he had any ambition. Which is worrying in itself.

Why would an ambitious player stay at Wolves? They have came 16th and 10th the last 2 seasons.

 

[Inchy226]

I think Gordon has enormous talent, and shown it in an awful team. Not Gascoigne levels, or Kane levels, but potential to be very good.

I dont know enough about White, but I hope he can be very good too.

In all honesty mate, I really wouldnt worry about where we are buying from. We have become far too pre-occupied about that, and how we are perceived. It doesnt matter, what matters is how they perform. We signed Southall from Bury, Cahill from Millwall, Arteta from Sociedad reserves, Peinaar from Dortmund reserves.

Maguire and Robertson got relegated with Hull. What matters is the player.

But I do worry about who we are buying and where from. Our track record isn't exactly stellar in recent times. We need some backbone if we are to avoid another season struggling at the bottom.

 

[Inchy226]

Why would an ambitious player stay at Wolves? They have came 16th and 10th the last 2 seasons.

No they didn't. 13th and 10th. Again, after two 7th placed finishes. One of them could have been 6th but they missed out by one goal to Spurs. Still, 3 out of 4 seasons above us since they returned.

 

[catcherintherye]

But I do worry about who we are buying and where from. Our track record isn't exactly stellar in recent times. We need some backbone if we are to avoid another season struggling at the bottom.

But we havent been buying young players who have done well in the championship really have we?

 

[catcherintherye]

No they didn't. 13th and 10th. Again, after two 7th placed finishes. One of them could have been 6th but they missed out by one goal to Spurs. Still, 3 out of 4 seasons above us since they returned.

Ok, so they have gone from 7th to 13th and 10th. That is going backwards mate.

 

[Inchy226]

Werent they in the bottom 3 for the last 17 games last season? In what way would you define that as "moving upwards"?

Werent they in the bottom 3 for the last 17 games last season? In what way would you define that as "moving upwards"?

They had a bad end to the season after securing their place in the Prem with over 10 games to go. Southampton did similar. At one stage they were talked about as being a top 4 candidate when they were on a charge. They occupied 7th spot prety much exclusively from October until the last game of the season. Same thing when they finished 13th. They were around 10th for most of that season.

 

[wwfc1]

Thanks for a very considered post mate.

He sounds good, and if we could get a really talented lad from Wolves it would be a bit of a coup, given where we are at. However, he will be working with one of Englands best ever midfielders being bought by Wolves former DOF and playing for Lampard who likes to blood young players. So it would be a gokd step in the right direction for us.

No idea if a deal can be done.

With the news that we're supposedly close to Collins I would expect MGW is leaving.

It's been widely reported we have to sell to buy, our owners have said as much. So can't see where we're finding £20m+ from and whilst we have a good squad, MGW is probably the only one who we get a fair valuation for.

Neves not getting the bids we expected, Kilman & Neto had injuries, Jimenez lost form, Ait-Nouri probably needs another year.

Whilst we're making noises about keeping him, I presume it's just to drive up the price. Realistically we can't keep a player who doesn't want to be here who will enter final year of his contract in 12 months, it's the last chance to get a proper fee.

 

[Inchy226]

Gutted about this as a Wolves fan.

I know the valuation seems a lot but it's pretty fair in the modern game. Maddison went for £20m+ a few years ago and MGW has the same stats as him and was the same age. Benrahma cost £25-30m as well, so that's the going rate for top Championship players, which MGW is proven to be.

However, unlike Norwich and Brentford in those instances, we're a Premier League club so that should add a bit more to his value. So, I think £30m is a fair price even if I understand why you would be sceptical.

If he won't sign a new deal we'd have to sell but I'd still be disappointed. We are in a position where we have to sell to buy generally, so letting him go into his final year of his deal makes no sense from our perspective.

In terms of his ability, he's class. He's got so much talent, finds space well, picks a pass and has added goals to his game.

He was unhappy with us that we recalled him from a loan spell with Swansea two seasons ago in January and didn't play him on his return, which was totally valid. Nuno didn't really fancy him for some reason and he was recalled in a bit of a panic with little thinking about his development

Under Lage we hoped he would be key but whilst he was very good in pre-season he was loaned out and that was believed to have annoyed him as well.

There were also issues between him and the fans. He was pictured at a party when lockdown was on with all these divs you get from Love Island or whatever and it didn't go down well, especially at that time. Certainly came across as flash and many of our fans would stupidly lay into his girlfriend on social media. Was all a bit nasty and may have contributed to him not wanting to be here.

People weren't too bothered that he went to Sheffield United and if we do sell him for £25-30m I guarantee you will read many Wolves fans say we've robbed you, you've overpaid etc. but I really don't believe that's the case.

I watch more Championship football than most, so that will influence their opinion. MGW hasn't actually done much for Wolves in his career to date but his quality with Sheffield United was clear to see.

He also played in the 3-4-3/3-5-2 for the Blades, so it left us a bit annoyed that we didn't do more to get him in our team.

The penny seems to have really dropped with him the last 12 months. He can still be a bit petulant at times when I've seen him but he was levels above the Championship and I would back him to go on to play for England the way he has improved.

Basically, this loan was sink or swim and he delivered.

Perhaps the only negative I could see is that there will be a lot of pressure on MGW if he moves to you if he's the big signing and whilst he's not a direct Richarlison replacement, there will be an expectancy for him to do well and maybe he wouldn't get eased in as he might at a Palace, Forest etc.

Interesting. Thanks for the info. So do you think he'd fancy a move to us based on this? Or is he more concerned about the money he makes?

 

[matty1878]

I don't like our team consisting mostly of English players. 85% of then are overrated guff. Morgan Gibbs White is one of them.

 

[matty1878]

I don’t see how this could be real, we don’t have any money. Stinks of a phantom bid.

lol well it’s BK n all

 

[Lob]

4 premier league players for 30m?
Not in 2022.
Anyone bought for 15m is considered cheap or comes with baggage / high wages that the selling team need to shift

Of course it is possible. Tarkowski was free, Townsend was free and Gray was less than 2 million so there are 3 and you still have 28 million to play with.

Bollox to the mega expensive players imo. It is what got us in this trouble in the first place.

 

[catcherintherye]

They had a bad end to the season after securing their place in the Prem with over 10 games to go. Southampton did similar. At one stage they were talked about as being a top 4 candidate when they were on a charge. They occupied 7th spot prety much exclusively from October until the last game of the season. Same thing when they finished 13th. They were around 10th for most of that season.

They were in a relegation dogfight when they finished 13th mate. I think you're a bit mistaken mate.

Either way, it doesnt matter where you are part way through the season. It matters how you do after 38 games, and they appear to be going the wrong way.

 

[Inchy226]

Ok, so they have gone from 7th to 13th and 10th. That is going backwards mate.

13th to 10th isn't going backwards. Clearly I'm arguing with a moron.
Now then, what do you make of us just avoiding relegation? Which team seems the better bet if you want to compete for your place and finish high in the league? Us or Wolves? There's only two reasons he'd move to us in these circumstances; i) Because he would play more often ii) Money.