minor things that make you fume

Driving to work today I noticed that new gantries have gone up just past the Croft Interchange on the M62 over the weekend.

They've got black screens over each lane.

They look exactly like the variable speed limit screens that plague the M6 near Wolverhampton.

Well in Highways England on ruining another motorway. Can't wait to have to do a variable speed ranging from 40mph-50mph when 70mph is perfectly acceptable.

Bloody menace they are. The M5 near Bristol has a stretch of them, probably 8 gantries over about 2 miles. The usual practice is 70, then 50, then 60, then 50, then 40, back to 70, and rounding the whole money grabbing exercise off, another 40. @ste d' indica
 

Driving to work today I noticed that new gantries have gone up just past the Croft Interchange on the M62 over the weekend.

They've got black screens over each lane.

They look exactly like the variable speed limit screens that plague the M6 near Wolverhampton.

Well in Highways England on ruining another motorway. Can't wait to have to do a variable speed ranging from 40mph-50mph when 70mph is perfectly acceptable.
Those yellow cameras are scum, went to Bolton yesterday on a message and there's a stretch there that had them and 50mph, not a road worker in sight at 9am on a Sunday morning.
 
Driving to work today I noticed that new gantries have gone up just past the Croft Interchange on the M62 over the weekend.

They've got black screens over each lane.

They look exactly like the variable speed limit screens that plague the M6 near Wolverhampton.

Well in Highways England on ruining another motorway. Can't wait to have to do a variable speed ranging from 40mph-50mph when 70mph is perfectly acceptable.
Bloody menace they are. The M5 near Bristol has a stretch of them, probably 8 gantries over about 2 miles. The usual practice is 70, then 50, then 60, then 50, then 40, back to 70, and rounding the whole money grabbing exercise off, another 40. @ste d' indica

Those yellow cameras are scum, went to Bolton yesterday on a message and there's a stretch there that had them and 50mph, not a road worker in sight at 9am on a Sunday morning.
For me these are less safe.

You spend most of the time staring at your speedo.

Always makes me chuckle when you get overtaken at speed in an average speed camera stretch though, by some little scrote who doesn't know what 'average' means and keeps speeding between cameras.
 
Bloody menace they are. The M5 near Bristol has a stretch of them, probably 8 gantries over about 2 miles. The usual practice is 70, then 50, then 60, then 50, then 40, back to 70, and rounding the whole money grabbing exercise off, another 40. @ste d' indica
Going to be an absolute nightmare for me getting to Manchester.

I usually leave at 6:30 and get in the office for 7:30, then leave at 15:30. Now with this stupid variable speed it'll probably add an hour and a half onto my day.
 

For me these are less safe.

You spend most of the time staring at your speedo.

Always makes me chuckle when you get overtaken at speed in an average speed camera stretch though, by some little scrote who doesn't know what 'average' means and keeps speeding between cameras.
I think the variable speed stretch is apart of this new 'smart motorway' idea.

I used to work in London and Birmingham a lot last year and on the M6 you can use the hard shoulder through the variable speed stretch.

I think that is the idea with our motorways up here now.

Just an absolute pain in the arse. Its bad enough getting to Manchester on a good day.
 

I think the variable speed stretch is apart of this new 'smart motorway' idea.

I used to work in London and Birmingham a lot last year and on the M6 you can use the hard shoulder through the variable speed stretch.

I think that is the idea with our motorways up here now.

Just an absolute pain in the arse. Its bad enough getting to Manchester on a good day.
What happens if you need the hard shoulder due to a breakdown though?

That's not smart to my mind.
 
What happens if you need the hard shoulder due to a breakdown though?

That's not smart to my mind.
There's a lot of evidence to suggest that 'smart' motorways are very dangerous and the government have ignored numerous pleas to reconsider. It's cheaper than adding another proper lane on to the motorwaysi suppose.

https://www.theaa.com/breakdown-cover/news/nothing-smart-about-deadly-lay-bys.html

Eight out of 10 drivers think that removal of hard-shoulders on SMART motorways has made motorways more dangerous than four years ago, according to an AA-Populus poll of 20,845 drivers.

Some drivers even refer to the lay-bys on these motorways as ‘death zones’.

The AA has raised concerns over SMART motorway safety in a recent letter to the new Transport Secretary, Chris Grayling MP. Prior to that the AA raised the issue with the Road Safety Minister, Highways England CEO and the Transport Select Committee.

Twice as many, twice as long
The main concern is the lack of lay-bys when the hard-shoulder is used as a running lane for the 130,000 AA members (and thousands of others) who breakdown on motorways each year. The Highways England guidance is for the Emergency Refuge Areas (ERA) to be no more than 2.6km apart (approx. 1.5 miles) whereas the AA would like to see at least twice as many lay-bys and they should be twice the length.

If a car breaks down without sight of a lay-by it is likely to stop in a live running lane where it will be at increased risk of being hit from behind.

If an HGV is parked up in the lay-by it makes it almost impossible for a car to safely enter the lay-by.

Emergency Breakdown Area
Highways England has also reported a problem of drivers (in particular foreign trucks) parking in the ERAs when it is not an emergency. Some officials believe that a clearer name is needed for the lay-bys. When given selected names in the AA Populus poll, the most popular was Emergency Breakdown Area (49%), Emergency Refuge Area (21%) and Breakdown Area (9%).

However, when drivers were asked to suggest their own names it became abundantly clear that many were not at all happy with the removal of the hard-shoulder or lack of lay-by provision. There were hundreds of suggestions along these lines:

  • Death Zone
  • Useless Concept Refuge Area
  • Desperate unreachable havens
  • Foolish Planners Promised Land
  • Good luck breaking down beside this space
  • Unwillingness to Invest Properly in Motorway Networks
  • Last port in a storm
  • Absolute Desperation Area
  • If you must break down, do so here
  • Pray to the motoring gods that you happen to break down right next to one of these areas' area.
Whilst we support measures to improve motorway capacity, we do not think that safety should be compromised. We do not accept that the current criteria of an Emergency Refuge Area or exit at least every 2.6km is safe

Edmund King OBE, president of the AA

Capacity without compromise
Commenting, Edmund King OBE, AA president, said: “Four fifths of our members think that motorways without hard shoulders are more dangerous.

“Whilst we support measures to improve motorway capacity, we do not think that safety should be compromised. We do not accept that the current criteria of an Emergency Refuge Area or exit at least every 2.6km is safe.

“Breaking down in a live running lane with trucks thundering up behind you is every driver’s worst nightmare. The official advice is to dial 999 which just shows how dangerous the situation can be.

“If drivers can see the next lay-by, they are much more likely to make it to the relative safety of that area even if their car has a puncture or is overheating. If they can’t see the lay-by, they often panic and stop in a live running lane. If more lay-bys are designed at the planning stage it will be less expensive and safer.

“Unprompted, our members came up with some scary names for the Emergency Refuge Areas - which indicates just how worried they are. It is time for the Government to go back to the drawing board and design a scheme acceptable to drivers.”

What to do if you break down

Breakdown advice
Don't ignore a Red X
In addition, even when a Red X is flashed up to warn drivers to avoid a lane where a car has broken down, collisions are still occurring. An AA member was hit on the M6 smart motorway near junction 13 only last week in such a situation.

A driver was spotted on the M3 all lane running roadworks section last week trying to change a tyre in a live running lane. No advance warning was given.

The AA’s concerns about the safety of these schemes were also raised by the police at a recent Transport Select Committee hearing.
 
Massive tail back on the A406 this morning caused by people not being able to maintain their speed up a hill and the sun being in their eyes.

I've never come across so many thick people since coming to London ffs. They're a different breed of stupid down here.
 

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