2024/25 Michael Vincent Keane

[Rooney_Tunes]

The thing is mate, Tarkis rarely injured and you have 2 other options as well.

This decision could bite us in the behind really badly if worst case scenario and we lose one of the first/second/third choice early doors.

What do you think Branthwaite will do if we are fighting relegation again next season.

We could lose him because all of you happy clappers are "fine" to keep this joke of a player as 4th choice.

 

[Yankfootball1]

I won’t argue with a lot of that but if we’re honest he’s had some truly awful games for us , or rather some truly awful errors leading to goals not like one every 10 appearances . I’ve no desire to remember and list them all but hes been far from a regulation centre half .

Keane seems like a decent lad , despite my comments I’m not massively opposed to him getting the extension as the manager seems to rate him higher than some & get a bit more out of him so it potentially makes financial sense .

There are games , like Newcastle where he’s done well and I hope every appearance we see from the fella is that level . However , and this isn’t directed at you but generally , I’m not having the new line that he’s been at worst average and made similar mistakes to others .

I agree he has been average and he has had howlers, At least by my memory, especially when he comes in cold. I generally feel better when he has a week to prepare for a start. When he comes in for an injury or to shore up the defense late is when I seem to think he struggles. One could argue that is what he is paid for.

I think frankly there are so many holes to fill this summer a serviceable 4th choice CB that allows us to invest more in a RW/RB/Striker is smart thinking. Additionally it being 2+1 player option (if true) gives us a better option to potentially sell him NEXT summer when hopefully needs are less pressing.

 

[Rooney_Tunes]

I agree he has been average and he has had howlers, At least by my memory, especially when he comes in cold. I generally feel better when he has a week to prepare for a start. When he comes in for an injury or to shore up the defense late is when I seem to think he struggles. One could argue that is what he is paid for.

I think frankly there are so many holes to fill this summer a serviceable 4th choice CB that allows us to invest more in a RW/RB/Striker is smart thinking. Additionally it being 2+1 player option (if true) gives us a better option to potentially sell him NEXT summer when hopefully needs are less pressing.

No pressure he is ok.

Pressure and we are F'd...

 

[Saint Domingo]

I really don't think people are saying it's unlikely that he'll ever have to play. What they mean when they say he's 4th choice isn't that he'll never step on the pitch it's that you're not going to (and don't need to) bring somebody in who's loads better to fulfil that role. If you put aside all the hysteria then he just isn't really a worse player than James Hill, Ben Mee, Jorge Cuenca, Willy Boly etc who had that role for the sides finishing in the sort of positions we're realistically aiming for this season. He's a bit crap, but midtable sides have crap players as their back up options, it's as simple as that really. Nobody wants that to be the case, it just is.

Like I said, we’ll see, the proof will be in what transpires. If hardly plays then no problem, if he does play regularly then the league campaign will suffer.

In the 22/23 season he started as effectively 6th choice. Lampard recognised the problem form the previous season and bought in a number of players to start ahead of him in his back 3 formation. Mina, Tarkowski, Godfrey were his starting line up and then he preferred Coady and Holgate before you got to Keane. First game of the season v Chelsea Godfrey does his leg, Mina and Holgate both get long term injuries and lo and behold Keane is back in the starting 11. Lampard was out the door by January.

Dyche finished 23/24 with the 4th best defence in the league. One injury to Branthwaite and we start with 4 losses despite leading 2-0 in 2 of the games. Keane put on a disaster class for the ages that took us a long time to recover from and arguably cost Dyche the opportunity to run out his contract.

 

[Harryflashman]

I agree he has been average and he has had howlers, At least by my memory, especially when he comes in cold. I generally feel better when he has a week to prepare for a start. When he comes in for an injury or to shore up the defense late is when I seem to think he struggles. One could argue that is what he is paid for.

I think frankly there are so many holes to fill this summer a serviceable 4th choice CB that allows us to invest more in a RW/RB/Striker is smart thinking. Additionally it being 2+1 player option (if true) gives us a better option to potentially sell him NEXT summer when hopefully needs are less pressing.

See I probably agree with your second paragraph I’m just not having him as average . I’ve no grudge against the lad but It’s been consistent errors , errors leading to goals for his career here .

I’m not a booer , I’m not looking to demonise him if anything I probably like him as an individual but average feels miles away from that I recall seeing . 4th choice fine , if my opinion meant anything which it doesn’t I’m ok with that but that’s as far as it extends .

 

[Yankfootball1]

See I probably agree with your second paragraph I’m just not having him as average . I’ve no grudge against the lad but It’s been consistent errors , errors leading to goals for his career here .

I’m not a booer , I’m not looking to demonise him if anything I probably like him as an individual but average feels miles away from that I recall seeing . 4th choice fine , if my opinion meant anything which it doesn’t I’m ok with that but that’s as far as it extends .

Fair enough, I personally think he will be sold next summer (vault me). I am far more concerned in order: RB, RW, Striker, DM, AM, LB before I get to a 4th choice CB. Any move that frees up funds for the higher priority holes, provided it is not shockingly non-sensical I am ok with. I hope that a young player makes the occasional bench and cup game or goes on loan in preparation for next year.

 

[Harryflashman]

Fair enough, I personally think he will be sold next summer (vault me). I am far more concerned in order: RB, RW, Striker, DM, AM, LB before I get to a 4th choice CB. I hope that a young player makes the occasional bench and cup game or goes on loan in preparation for next year.

Don’t think any of the current young centre halves are deemed good enough but I’d echo that . If he’s sold sound , stays and is solid then equally sound . It’s not personal I just want us to win footy matches

 

[Yankfootball1]

Don’t think any of the current young centre halves are deemed good enough but I’d echo that . If he’s sold sound , stays and is solid then equally sound . It’s not personal I just want us to win footy matches

I dont know enough about the young CB's - I dont have real insight in to the youth squad.... Kind of depressing that there is no one that we would at least send out on loan....

 

[Lanolin]

Like I said, we’ll see, the proof will be in what transpires. If hardly plays then no problem, if he does play regularly then the league campaign will suffer.

In the 22/23 season he started as effectively 6th choice. Lampard recognised the problem form the previous season and bought in a number of players to start ahead of him in his back 3 formation. Mina, Tarkowski, Godfrey were his starting line up and then he preferred Coady and Holgate before you got to Keane. First game of the season v Chelsea Godfrey does his leg, Mina and Holgate both get long term injuries and lo and behold Keane is back in the starting 11. Lampard was out the door by January.

Dyche finished 23/24 with the 4th best defence in the league. One injury to Branthwaite and we start with 4 losses despite leading 2-0 in 2 of the games. Keane put on a disaster class for the ages that took us a long time to recover from and arguably cost Dyche the opportunity to run out his contract.

Unless you're saying he goes around deliberately hobbling the other players I really don't know what point you're trying to make. Yes, people get injured and your back ups have to play, we know that. If we don't bring in or right back or we do and they get injured and Coleman or Patterson has to play at right back it will be an issue, if Pickford gets injured and Tyrer or someone like Angus Gunn has to play it will be an issue, if Mykolenko gets injured and we have to play err... nobody at left back it will be an issue. Keane is no more of an issue than any of those things, it's not ideal by any means but it doesn't deserve the mass cryarsing it's getting from some.

 

[blue to the bone]

 

[TrailerTrash]

 

[davids]

Lads, Chelsea's 4th choice CB when they won the league under Mourinho was a little known Robert Huth. These players aren't expected to be household names. As long as the wages are low, what's the problem?

For me it's lack of investment for the future. Should have been looking to sign a younger player who can play CD and DM. They'd get plenty of minutes covering cup games injuries and suspensions.

 

[jamieni]

For me it's lack of investment for the future. Should have been looking to sign a younger player who can play CD and DM. They'd get plenty of minutes covering cup games injuries and suspensions.

I don’t hate a one year extension if it means we can save a fee on a CB and add quality elsewhere on the pitch.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

Interesting (but good for us) that he's accepted 1 year. With offers elsewhere you'd think he'd look for more security at his age.

 

[Marius57]

We’ll see. We had a decent season for that group of player in 23/24 because Keane was finally sidelined and kept out the team. There’s a correlation between how little we see of him and how good our form is. His performances in the 4 games to start last season were some of the worst I’ve ever seen.

What about his performances in the last 4 games?

When we had a competent and good man manager in place.