2019/20 Michael Keane

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Looks likely to be the fall guy, even though both him and Maguire should be dropped. Would it be wrong of me to hope Mings makes a monumental cock up just to pipe the Villa fans down a bit?

Think its quite normal that a manager changes the team after a defeat.

Unless your name is Marco Silva like.
 

Can't wait till his gone. Burnley really ripped us off. They have better defenders right now than this joke.
To be fair, and this isnt in anyway sticking up for Keane, how do you know this? Or rather why do you think they have better defenders?
What they do have is a much better manager who knows how to defend.
Bring those Burnley defenders here and they would look terrible under Silvas pathetic management
 
To be fair, and this isnt in anyway sticking up for Keane, how do you know this? Or rather why do you think they have better defenders?
What they do have is a much better manager who knows how to defend.
Bring those Burnley defenders here and they would look terrible under Silvas pathetic management
anyone can leave 8 guys in a low block and make their CBs look amazing, let's not get crazy here
 

seeing how much stick he is getting from all sides for his England performances, he's gonna be dropped tonight and come back for us on Saturday and be even more of a fadge isn't he
 
He’s just a poor player who has been elevated to a level he should never be at because of a lack of options. In any other era Keane and Maguire aren’t even internationals let alone first choice. Think back to how good Lescott and Jagielka were in 2010 and neither even made the World Cup squad that year. Burnley was his level. We’ve seen his best with us and it’s just ok. He’s slow to react, switches off all the time and lacks pace on the turn. He’s quite strong in the air and is ok on the ball and at defending deep in his box. A top defender that does not make though.
 
He’s just a poor player who has been elevated to a level he should never be at because of a lack of options. In any other era Keane and Maguire aren’t even internationals let alone first choice. Think back to how good Lescott and Jagielka were in 2010 and neither even made the World Cup squad that year. Burnley was his level. We’ve seen his best with us and it’s just ok. He’s slow to react, switches off all the time and lacks pace on the turn. He’s quite strong in the air and is ok on the ball and at defending deep in his box. A top defender that does not make though.


....very surprised given Southgate’s record of playing youth, that he’s not given the likes of Tomori and Gomez a run. Mings was also impressive last season. Keane has little or no competition at Everton, but all of those would be comfortably ahead from an international perspective.

that's it isn't it, in any other era Keane doesn't even get mentioned for England never mind start

Tomori has started strongly and gomez has had his injuries but both will be above him in no time. ( got other players coming back from injuries like Holding from Arsenal also )
 
I think England only has one genuine international standard centreback in John Stones. There’s some decent young ones coming through like Tomori but the likes of Keane Maguire Tarkowski Smalling Jones are not international class.
 

Crowd need to get behind Keane when he returns because his confidence will be shattered. He probably needs to forget about England and focus on building a partnership with Mina and becoming more aware in matches, because, pace aside, he has the attributes needed to be a better defender than we are currently seeing.

....very surprised given Southgate’s record of playing youth, that he’s not given the likes of Tomori and Gomez a run. Mings was also impressive last season. Keane has little or no competition at Everton, but all of those would be comfortably ahead of him from an international perspective.

He said something in an interview either before or after the game about certain players not getting on the pitch for their clubs making it difficult to select them. I took that's to be a reference to Gomes who he has played before and who at least has pace.

I would like to see Mings given a go. He seems to be improving week on week and he's guaranteed to be playing for villa.
 
I think England only has one genuine international standard centreback in John Stones. There’s some decent young ones coming through like Tomori but the likes of Keane Maguire Tarkowski Smalling Jones are not international class.
Stones make too many basic defending errors to be considered a top defender.

Keane would be better out of the team, he is a good club player but not international quality at a good standard.

As we are playing so poorly(Everton) as a team I don't think it fair to highlight the frailties of the defenders... those in front of them have questions to answer... much the same as England.
 
Ming’s is an utter yard dog of a player. Every time I watch him he’s deflecting in his own net or kicking his own players. Awful. Says everything about the state of English defenders and the talent of Gareth relegation specialist southgate.
 

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