Michael Jackson

PITA · March 7, 2019

flibbyflob said:
Amazes me how people will happily say that Jimmy Savile, Rolf Harris and Kevin Spacey were/are wrong uns but still defend Michael Jackson being the same. I just can't believe people still think Jackson is innocent, we knew 25+ years ago he was sleeping with young boys but because he could sing it is ignored.

A lot of people can sing. I always thought his appeal was more to do with his dancing.

RomanReigns · March 7, 2019

d34noj said:
'According to reports' they corroborated his description, he stated he was circumcised - the autopsy proved otherwise.

Amazing what you'll say for $23m. Wade Robson wants $1.62 BILLION. Don't believe a word of it.

Why don’t you believe it?

You think he kept pictures of naked children because he wasn’t sexually attracted to them?

Did you not see the creepy fax machine messages and the voicemails and the videos

harris78 · March 7, 2019

RomanReigns said:
Why don’t you believe it?

You think he kept pictures of naked children because he wasn’t sexually attracted to them?

Did you not see the creepy fax machine messages and the voicemails and the videos

Apparently MJ knew about Saville and was doing the world a favour by keeping all the naked pics of kids in his secret lair so no other nonce could get them...that's the rumour i heard.... #healtheworld

Moomin · March 7, 2019

d34noj said:
Not particularly, as he wasnt cleared of all charges by a court of law, by the FBI and the same people who now claim he abused?!

He never got charged.

Jackson was a predator, one with a lot of cash.

Osamabindiesel · March 7, 2019

billyblue80 said:
Yes that kind of fame is unhealthy because it makes them feel they are untouchable. It's something they were enabled to do. Michael Jackson was very manipulative, it hurts because I was a fan of his music as a kid but the weight of allegations is too much to deny and the doc was very disturbing. He clearly was a very damaged person from his childhood beatings and being famous from very young. He was also an abuser he ticks all the patterns of grooming and power and maniuplation of his victims. Sad to say.

I do agree that it's interesting that two of the musicians who have been exposed so far are black though because underage sex and abuses were rife in the music industry throughout the 70s and 80s.

I actually found that very interesting as well. Like I said before about the 70’s and 80’s though, it wasn’t quite as monitored as it is now, and that may be why a lot of those musicians aren’t facing the backlash.

To be fair, I think people should be judged on recent culture/behavior and not from years ago unless it went into abusive territory. If it was accepted back then, no matter how wrong, it would kind of be weird to judge by the same standards now. Jackson and Kelly do have more recent examples of abuse, etc. as well.

d34noj · March 7, 2019

Moomin said:
He never got charged.

Jackson was a predator, one with a lot of cash.

He wasnt charged because there was no evidence. And yes, he had lots of cash - which is the entire point of it all.

I wonder if the families have been paid for the documentary.

Frang · March 7, 2019

36 pages

Moomin · March 7, 2019

d34noj said:
He wasnt charged because there was no evidence. And yes, he had lots of cash - which is the entire point of it all.

I wonder if the families have been paid for the documentary.

I was talking about Savile.

PITA · March 7, 2019

Connor said:
Once, actually.

First time he settled out of court.

Does it matter?
Gerrard was found no guilty and we all know he did it.

mccole · March 7, 2019

DanEFC92 said:
World class nonce.

Good with both feet, etc etc

Is this Michael Jackson or Adam Johnson?

mccole · March 7, 2019

longers said:
Apparently this is the lock on the room (referenced in documentary) where he used to sleep with kids each night... now im no lock expert but I think its reasonable to assume he didn't want anyone coming in unannounced.

To be fair, most houses in Anfield have the same lock

trueblue84 · March 7, 2019

mccole said:
To be fair, most houses in Anfield have the same lock

Haha... Explains a lot!

Wizard · March 7, 2019

d34noj said:
He wasnt charged because there was no evidence. And yes, he had lots of cash - which is the entire point of it all.

I wonder if the families have been paid for the documentary.

The director has said they weren’t paid. I’m sure people will say he’s lying but it’s the only evidence so far of whether they were or weren’t.

Also he was “charged” twice. He paid one of them off (who described in detail his genitalia which I would say is evidence) and the second case he was judged to be innocent.

As for Robson, his first court case was thrown out because of the statute of limitations, not a lack of evidence. When he and Safechuck amended their case it was against MJJ Productions and MJJ Ventures for facilitating child abuse. For this there wasn’t sufficient evidence. It did not mean that Jackson was again found innocent of child abuse.

All this information is out there if you really want to look for it.

RomanReigns · March 7, 2019

Wizard said:
The director has said they weren’t paid. I’m sure people will say he’s lying but it’s the only evidence so far of whether they were or weren’t.

Also he was “charged” twice. He paid one of them off (who described in detail his genitalia which I would say is evidence) and the second case he was judged to be innocent.

As for Robson, his first court case was thrown out because of the statute of limitations, not a lack of evidence. When he and Safechuck amended their case it was against MJJ Productions and MJJ Ventures for facilitating child abuse. For this there wasn’t sufficient evidence. It did not mean that Jackson was again found innocent of child abuse.

All this information is out there if you really want to look for it.

Yeah but bad was such a tune though