Michael Jackson

[Joey66]

A lot of people can sing. I always thought his appeal was more to do with his dancing.

You'd dance like he did with a dill doll stuck up his arsp....

 

[arminisgod]

The director has said they weren’t paid. I’m sure people will say he’s lying but it’s the only evidence so far of whether they were or weren’t.

Also he was “charged” twice. He paid one of them off (who described in detail his genitalia which I would say is evidence) and the second case he was judged to be innocent.

As for Robson, his first court case was thrown out because of the statute of limitations, not a lack of evidence. When he and Safechuck amended their case it was against MJJ Productions and MJJ Ventures for facilitating child abuse. For this there wasn’t sufficient evidence. It did not mean that Jackson was again found innocent of child abuse.

All this information is out there if you really want to look for it.

yeah but wade robson is a proven liar? does that not mean anything?

 

[Groucho]

Listen, this is the original version so at least one song doesn’t have to be banned.

 

[Harryflashman]

yeah but wade robson is a proven liar? does that not mean anything?

You know most of the Northern grooming trials featured a number of girls who denied they’d been abused , defended their abusers etc ... I presume you’d similarly think that abuse victims that lie should be dismissed ? So Rotherham I think , I may be wrong , most of not all the girls denied abuse at one stage or another . It’s not unusual for abuse victims to deny it’s happened even as adults .

 

[arminisgod]

You know most of the Northern grooming trials featured a number of girls who denied they been abused , defended their abusers etc ... I presume you’d similarly think that abuse victims that lie should be dismissed ? So Rotherham I think , I may be wrong , most of not all the girls denied abuse at one stage or another . It’s not unusual for abuse victims to deny it’s happened even as adults .

sorry mate, but what the hell does that have to do with this case?

 

[Harryflashman]

sorry mate, but what the hell does that have to do with this case?

Sorry I thought you were saying he was lying about the abuse and in that context had previously lied under oath . In what context do you mean he’s a proven liar ?

 

[Wizard]

yeah but wade robson is a proven liar? does that not mean anything?

When has he been “proven”’ to be lying? He obviously has at some point as he said he hadn’t been raped and now is saying he has. Both can’t be true. But the first time he defended Jackson was when he was 11 and still in love with him. The second time in 2005 he still hadn’t come to terms with what had happened to him.

Please watch the whole documentary and then come back to this. If you watch it all and still think he is innocent then fine. I won’t agree with you but at least you’ll be a bit more informed on what Robson and Safechuck went through and maybe see why it isn’t as easy as just saying “but they defended him in court!!”

 

[zzr45]

I feel gutted for my childhood friend, he was a massive MJ fan, used to always tell me he was inspired by him.

I say friend, he was a man that used to bring my great uncle whiskey, then sodomise me when my uncle fell asleep.

 

[Walken]

You'd dance like he did with a dill doll stuck up his arsp....

this might be your greatest typo yet

 

[Blues Harp]

Reccomended reading..."groupie" by Jenny Fabian...not for family consumption..but it was another "era" so that's ok then. Paedo rock bands ruled the world.....

 

[Harryflashman]

When has he been “proven”’ to be lying? He obviously has at some point as he said he hadn’t been raped and now is saying he has. Both can’t be true. But the first time he defended Jackson was when he was 11 and still in love with him. The second time in 2005 he still hadn’t come to terms with what had happened to him.

Please watch the whole documentary and then come back to this. If you watch it all and still think he is innocent then fine. I won’t agree with you but at least you’ll be a bit more informed on what Robson and Safechuck went through and maybe see why it isn’t as easy as just saying “but they defended him in court!!”

That was what I assumed when he was accused of being a proven liar and my point in answering by mentioning grooming abuse victims was that a large number denied that that abuse had ever occurred. It’s incredibly common

 

[arminisgod]

lets just leave it. He testified that he wasn't abused. Ive watched the doc. The most one sided thing i've ever seen. Still not of shred of evidence againt him.

This program has changed the boundaries really

 

[Walken]

imagine a documentary feeling one sided against a mega peado, should have accused the victims of self pity or something in the interest of balance

 

[neil999]

lets just leave it. He testified that he wasn't abused. Ive watched the doc. The most one sided thing i've ever seen. Still not of shred of evidence againt him.

This program has changed the boundaries really

Him testifying when he was a child that he want abused is irrelevant, you need to understand grooming

 

[arminisgod]

Him testifying when he was a child that he want abused is irrelevant, you need to understand grooming

he was 23 years old ffs