Michael Jackson

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Amazes me how people will happily say that Jimmy Savile, Rolf Harris and Kevin Spacey were/are wrong uns but still defend Michael Jackson being the same. I just can't believe people still think Jackson is innocent, we knew 25+ years ago he was sleeping with young boys but because he could sing it is ignored.
 

flibbyflob said:
Amazes me how people will happily say that Jimmy Savile, Rolf Harris and Kevin Spacey were/are wrong uns but still defend Michael Jackson being the same. I just can't believe people still think Jackson is innocent, we knew 25+ years ago he was sleeping with young boys but because he could sing it is ignored.
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I know what you mean mate, its the whole defence "He had no childhood and so he found innocent comfort in sharing a bed with a child"

Remind me never to leave my kids with the people who actually believe this as a reason (excuse) for his actions...absolute monster the bloke.

Nobody pays someone 23 million dollars unless there are things you don't want to get out about your habits with young kids
 
Tubey said:
Correct, yes, except the last bit - they can question it, privately through counselling and therapy if need be. If you can't prove it legally, don't defame publicly. There's an obvious reason there's laws in place to stop people saying anything about anyone.

The only reason this documentary exists is because Jackson is dead and legally you can't defame a dead person.

As I've already said, I think he was a pedophile, but what I think is irrelevant - I'm talking about trial by Twitter; the circumvention of due process that can destroy lives. A completely one-sided process.
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Why do you keep saying it's defamation? It's only defamation if it's false. You keep saying you're open minded about it but then basically say they're lying.

Frankly, saying you can never publically reveal that you were abused by a paedophile if that person is now dead is a disgusting, horrifying attitude.
 
Why does MJ get all this special attention? When are our homegrown paedos going to get their own TV specials?
 

Lanolin said:
Why do you keep saying it's defamation? It's only defamation if it's false. You keep saying you're open minded about it but then basically say they're lying.

Frankly, saying you can never publically reveal that you were abused by a paedophile if that person is now dead is a disgusting, horrifying attitude.
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I don't think Tubey is saying that they are lying. I don't think they are either, but it's just that we still have to accept that there is a remote possibility that they might be. These are just accounts and, as credible as they are, they aren't proof of Jackson's guilt. I'm perfectly happy to say that Jackson was a nonce based on what we know, but it doesn't mean to say we have to be comfortable with the way the news cycle and social media deals with this stuff
 
Prevenger17 said:
I don't think Tubey is saying that they are lying. I don't think they are either, but it's just that we still have to accept that there is a remote possibility that they might be. These are just accounts and, as credible as they are, they aren't proof of Jackson's guilt. I'm perfectly happy to say that Jackson was a nonce based on what we know, but it doesn't mean to say we have to be comfortable with the way the news cycle and social media deals with this stuff
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But by saying they're defaming Jackson the clear implication is that they are lying. That might not be what he means to say, but it is what he's saying. I agree that the media/twitter storm is not helpful, and I haven't even watched the program so I have no idea what was said in it, my issue was more with the idea if that if you can't prosecute you shouldn't speak out, because his family might not like it or whatever. Whether I think it happened, you do, or his nephew does are all really irrelevant in this situation. IF this happened, then saying the victims should keep silent about it sits very, very, uncomfortably with me.
 
Bungle said:
Stuart Hall returns with a slight twist on Its a Knockout with his new show Knock one out where he hides outside a school and has to knock one out undetected.

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All these celebrities have it dead easy though. What about your grass roots nonce that has to graft day in, day out with no recognition? It’s high time they had their own show.
 

Kenshin said:
The other side of the coin is that for a singer at the very top of the charts , lengthy court battles all the time against false allegations isn't the best for business .

He may have been guilty or people extorted money from him.

My one point is, if he was molesting these children, why didn't a single parent want to see him in prison and took the money each and every time?

Does that not strike you as odd? Not a single family took him to a verdict. No way any sort of money would want a parent to forget the little fact at what he was have supposed to have done. Doesn't add up at all.
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It completely adds up with everything that is know about many peadophiles - they are manipulative and calculating.
 
I was a huge fan back in the day, went to his concerts, but watching this was shocking. I just dont understand though how that Australian woman split up her family and literally pushed her son into his arms.. yes i get that he promised them lots of things, but when it was obvious that wasnt gonna happen why stay? proper weird.
 

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