Michael Jackson

SpongeBob brown shoes · March 6, 2019

Nonce

Frang · March 6, 2019

Connor said:
Had the pleasure of meeting Michael Jackson at a charity do once

Shut up

coollino · March 6, 2019

Connor said:
Had the pleasure of meeting Michael Jackson at a charity do once

Down to earth and VERY funny

Frang · March 6, 2019

coollino said:
Down to earth and VERY funny

Are we on about Michael or matt Jackson here..

Moomin · March 6, 2019

Connor said:
Had the pleasure of meeting Michael Jackson at a charity do once

Down to earth guy.

harris78 · March 6, 2019

BigBlueNose said:
I can't get my head round him being black American looking when he was a kid to a pale skinned in his 30's...

That's what spending all your days in secret bedrooms with kids, does to you. Pasty skinned paedo

harris78 · March 6, 2019

ToffeeDevil said:
dude clearly had mental issues. he never got to live out his childhood, and obviously loved anything child related. does that excuse his taking advantage of children? absolutely not - he knew it was wrong too.

but considering his situation (fame as a child too fast/too quickly, abusive father), you can understand how he became to be this way. michael probably never trusted adults, and children were the most genuine in terms of loving him. so when it came to kids under age 10, who had no ulterior motives in being his friend, it's unsurprising that he'd end up being attracted to them, once it came to light

Wizard · March 6, 2019

Tubey said:
The statute of limitations exists for a reason and is law - it doesn't matter why a case isn't brought forward in time. It's not ridiculous to say that if your legal complaint is rebuffed because of the statute not allowing it, then publicly defaming the subject of your complaint without legal process shouldn't be the remedy.

As for the rest of what you say, I'm sorry but that's just lynch mob mentality. Take the emotive subject matter away and look at the legal logic of it - there's a reason why due process exists.

So because the statute ran out, anyone he abused has to stay quiet. And given they can’t pursue it in a court of law, and he can never be found guilty, anyone questioning him has a lynch mob mentality?

You said earlier it should be played out in the courts, not on Twitter etc. But if it can’t be taken to court what is supposed to happen?! Just get on with it? Never question it?

As I said in a post earlier (not to you), Jordy Chandler explained in detail aspects of Jackson’s genitalia, down to specific marks, colours etc. This was in 1993. He was paid over $20m to keep it out of court. I know payoffs aren’t an admission of guilt necessarily but the history here suggests he was. This is not some random one off accusation that has no basis. There is a clear history of this. It’s not lynch mob mentality, it’s based off a pattern of abuse of over 20 years.

sageyefc · March 6, 2019

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Tubey · March 6, 2019

Wizard said:
So because the statute ran out, anyone he abused has to stay quiet. And given they can’t pursue it in a court of law, and he can never be found guilty, anyone questioning him has a lynch mob mentality?

You said earlier it should be played out in the courts, not on Twitter etc. But if it can’t be taken to court what is supposed to happen?! Just get on with it? Never question it?

As I said in a post earlier (not to you), Jordy Chandler explained in detail aspects of Jackson’s genitalia, down to specific marks, colours etc. This was in 1993. He was paid over $20m to keep it out of court. I know payoffs aren’t an admission of guilt necessarily but the history here suggests he was. This is not some random one off accusation that has no basis. There is a clear history of this. It’s not lynch mob mentality, it’s based off a pattern of abuse of over 20 years.

Correct, yes, except the last bit - they can question it, privately through counselling and therapy if need be. If you can't prove it legally, don't defame publicly. There's an obvious reason there's laws in place to stop people saying anything about anyone.

The only reason this documentary exists is because Jackson is dead and legally you can't defame a dead person.

As I've already said, I think he was a pedophile, but what I think is irrelevant - I'm talking about trial by Twitter; the circumvention of due process that can destroy lives. A completely one-sided process.

Wizard · March 7, 2019

Tubey said:
Correct, yes, except the last bit - they can question it, privately through counselling and therapy if need be. If you can't prove it legally, don't defame publicly. There's an obvious reason there's laws in place to stop people saying anything about anyone.

The only reason this documentary exists is because Jackson is dead and legally you can't defame a dead person.

As I've already said, I think he was a pedophile, but what I think is irrelevant - I'm talking about trial by Twitter; the circumvention of due process that can destroy lives. A completely one-sided process.

I get your point, as I initially said in my first reply to you. And I completely agree when it’s one random accusation and the person is destroyed before anything has been proven or has any basis whatsoever other than an accusation. This has happened a lot recently and is very toxic. That can ruin a number of lives very quickly.

I just think in this situation, given it seems very likely that he was a serial offender, that keeping quiet might mean that others that have gone through it don’t want to talk out and could really struggle to deal with it as a result. It might take these 2 guys to have spoken out that means that lots of others will go and seek that private help and counselling.