Michael Jackson

[Moomin]

“40 year old fella who likes sleeping in bed with other people’s children defo isn’t a sexual predator”


ARE YOU INSANE???!

Maybe they think its ok, secretly they want to do it but won't admit it.

Only sleep with them in a platonic way, not sexual as thats totally wrong.

 

[COYBL25]

Jaxit

lol

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

It's about people who cant form their own opinion based on ALL of the facts sat in front of them who think he's guilty.

Say the flat earthers and climate change deniers.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

One of these two things is true:

Jackson was a man-child who just wanted to spend time around other kids because he could relate to them. He loved all children, as he professed, (oh but only the boys, no interest in the girls). Jackson slept in the same bed as boys as young as 8yrs old, in a room with intense security, but in a purely platonic way. Five accusers (including two who were paid off with substantial settlements) are all lying.

Or

He was a predatory paedophile.

I mean, they both just seem equally likely!!!!

 

[Joey66]

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I think the mods should lock this thread. it's getting silly

Silly alleged star MJ pedo silly he built a lovenest for kiddies silly ..... - really FGS.....

 

[Joey66]

In your opinion. He was found innocent

So was OJ Simpson till they caught him the 2nd time.....

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

In your opinion. He was found innocent

No he wasn’t, he was found not guilty.

That’s not the same thing.

 

[arminisgod]

No he wasn’t, he was found not guilty.

That’s not the same thing.

Erm.... Yes it is. Everyone starts from innocent. So if you are not guilty... Your are innocent

 

[Mozza1987]

We will never know what actually happened. He was defo a weirdo. Only watched the first episode of the documentary but I just don't believe these two at all. No emotions at all to supposedly shocking things that happened to them. Also no real detail to what happened, they basically just said we did this, we did that. Couldn't anyone just say that. Didn't their accusations get thrown out of court as well? Don't know the ins and outs of it all to be honest.

I just don't know what is true as he clearly was a strange individual. Anyway why the hell would you let your kid sleep in the same room with another adult. Just madness really.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Erm.... Yes it is. Everyone starts from innocent. So if you are not guilty... Your are innocent

No, it isn’t.

Nobody is “found innocent”, you’re found not guilty. There is no requirement to prove innocence and (particularly in Jackson’s case) it is often down to the prosecution failing to prove their case BEYOND reasonable doubt.

Entirely possible for a jury to believe that on the balance of probability the likelihood is that a defendant is guilty (as a couple of jurors in Jackson’s case have since stated - aside from those who DID find him guilty) and still return a not guilty verdict.

Much like the Simpson case

 

[arminisgod]

No, it isn’t.

Nobody is “found innocent”, you’re found not guilty. There is no requirement to prove innocence and (particularly in Jackson’s case) it is often down to the prosecution failing to prove their case BEYOND reasonable doubt.

Entirely possible for a jury to believe that in the balance of probability the likelihood is that a defendant is guilty (as a couple of jurors in Jackson’s case have since stated - aside from those who DID find him guilty) and still return a not guilty verdict.

Much like the Simpson case

Right... So if your found not guilty you are innocent? Or are your going to make something up?

You are innocent until proven guilty.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

We will never know what actually happened. He was defo a weirdo. Only watched the first episode of the documentary but I just don't believe these two at all. No emotions at all to supposedly shocking things that happened to them. Also no real detail to what happened, they basically just said we did this, we did that. Couldn't anyone just say that. Didn't their accusations get thrown out of court as well? Don't know the ins and outs of it all to be honest.

I just don't know what is true as he clearly was a strange individual. Anyway why the hell would you let your kid sleep in the same room with another adult. Just madness really.

They didn’t get thrown out of court, no. Well I mean technically they did I suppose, but only because the statute of limitations had expired, not down to them being without merit

 

[bring the ghost on]

Found innocent....

How many people were paid off along the way?

How much power did he assert on people to silence them?

It's pretty remarkable that you are so adamant the guy was innocent. For most people, it's a no brainer at this stage. But at the very very least, the documentary should make you question whether your faith in his innocence is misplaced.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Right... So if your found not guilty you are innocent? Or are your going to make something up?

You are innocent until proven guilty.

You can say it all you like mate, “innocent” is not an available verdict, because that isn’t where the burden of proof lies

 

[Mozza1987]

They didn’t get thrown out of court, no. Well I mean technically they did I suppose, but only because the statute of limitations had expired, not down to them being without merit

Alright sound. Like I said don't know the ins and outs. But just going off the documentary these two and their parents show zero emotion to what happened to them. Never struggling to talk about it or get upset. Just not normal at all for me that.