Messi "best player of all time"

Boba Fret · July 11, 2018

Best player of his era.

If he was transported back to the 60's or 70's he couldn't cope with the physicality,or the equipment.

Bruce Wayne · July 11, 2018

Boba Fret said:
Best player of his era.

If he was transported back to the 60's or 70's he couldn't cope with the physicality,or the equipment.

The physicality? :lol:

If you transplanted a player from the 60s into the modern era they'd be knackered before Deulofeu.

davek · July 11, 2018

Bruce Wayne said:
The physicality? lol If you transplanted a player from the 60s into the modern era they'd be knackered before Deulofeu.

That's a poor defence really. A player from the past could easily get up to modern fitness norms. A player from this era who depends on referee protection to be able to do their job would find it much harder dealing with enforcers all over the opposition half of the pitch whose sole job was to end your game early.

Bruce Wayne · July 11, 2018

davek said:
That's a poor defence really. A player from the past could easily get up to modern fitness norms. A player from this era who depends on referee protection to be able to do their job would find it much harder dealing with enforcers all over the opposition half of the pitch whose sole job was to end your game early.

You'll have evidence that there were significantly more injuries in the past than today I presume?

Brendan Janus · July 11, 2018

Imagine Messi on the 60's & 70's Baseball Ground lol

davek · July 11, 2018

Bruce Wayne said:
You'll have evidence that there were significantly more injuries in the past than today I presume?

How would that be relevant when players just got on (and had to get on) with the type of minor knocks today's players are looking to be stretchered off with? It's entirley irrelevant.

You'd do better looking at the videos from that period of what flair players had to put up with and then asking yourself whether Messi could cope in that environment and be the player he has been. IMO - very definitely not.

tsubaki · July 11, 2018

davek said:
How would that be relevant when players just got on (and had to get on) with the type of minor knocks today's players are looking to be stretchered off with? It's entirley irrelevant.

You'd do better looking at the videos from that period of what flair players had to put up with and then asking yourself whether Messi could cope in that environment and be the player he has been. IMO - very definitely not.

I think he'd hold up at least as well as Maradona did, and as he isn't someone who you'd happily volley up in the air twenty four hours a day he would probably avoid the worst of Maradona's injuries.

Boba Fret · July 11, 2018

Bruce Wayne said:
The physicality? lol If you transplanted a player from the 60s into the modern era they'd be knackered before Deulofeu.

Never mentioned fitness levels

It was a much more competitive game with heavy tackling the norm.

davek · July 11, 2018

tsubaki said:
I think he'd hold up at least as well as Maradona did, and as he isn't someone who you'd happily volley up in the air twenty four hours a day he would probably avoid the worst of Maradona's injuries.

Maybe. He may well have taken the hits and not cried off. But he wouldn't be as effective as he has been. He's been fortunate to be playing in a period of the game where tackling is almost outlawed.

larrygobfiend · July 11, 2018

Mardy little nobhead nowadays. Football has really ground him down.

Bruce Wayne · July 11, 2018

davek said:
How would that be relevant when players just got on (and had to get on) with the type of minor knocks today's players are looking to be stretchered off with? It's entirley irrelevant.

You'd do better looking at the videos from that period of what flair players had to put up with and then asking yourself whether Messi could cope in that environment and be the player he has been. IMO - very definitely not.

Aye, you had to be built like Rambo to survive back then.